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How someone gets a free "second income" from AT&T

Are you jobless? Need a little extra cash for the weekend? Have a
girlfriend that spends all of your money?  Well, AT&T operators
are always more than happy to mail you a check or two for a good
five bucks each. If you've ever called up the operator and tried
to convince her that you lost your quarter then you know that
they hardly ever put the call through for you. They'll always
send you a check in the mail for 25 cents.

Well, this method also works on long distance and international
calls just as well. A long distance call can run you up to $2.75
and I think the most expensive international call I've found is
$9.65. If you tell the operator you lost all this money, she'll
happily refund your money. Here's how the conversation usually
goes with me:

You go to a pay phone. It HAS to be a pay phone, they're not THAT
stupid. I dial the numbers 102880 which gives me the AT&T
operator. (For those of you with short memories, dial 10ATT0.)

THEM: "AT&T, this is Mrs. Papshmeer, how may I help you?"
 YOU: "Yeah, I was making an international call using my spare
pocket change
       that I stole by breaking open a Pepsi machine on 86th
Street and the
       phone went dead and kept all my money. Could you try the
call for me?" THEM: "I'm really sorry about that, sir. Our
policy won't let me put the
       call through for you but I can refund the money to you in
the mail."
 YOU: "Okay, I guess I can do that, then." THEM: "Alright how
much money did you lose?"
 YOU: "Um...$5.65." THEM: "What happened when you placed this
 YOU: "Well, I dialed the number and the operator had me deposit
$3.00 of my
       money. Then my party answered and she had me deposit the
other $2.65.
       As soon as I put in the rest of my money the phone went
       dead." THEM: "Alright, what number were you dialing?"
 YOU: "Country code 61, city code 2 and the number was 667-3603."
THEM: "Okay, I need your name, address and zip code."
 YOU: "(I give her my name address and zip code.)" THEM: "We'll
have that to you in the mail in about two weeks. Sorry about
       your trouble."
 YOU: "Thank you. You have a hell of a day now!"

We hang up. About two weeks later I recieve a letter from AT&T's
office in Jacksonville, Florida with a letter of apology and a
check for $5.65. Simple as that. Of course, I usually do 2 to 3
calls a week so my checks add up to about $10 to $15 a week.

Some Important Notes: -------------------- First of all, you HAVE
to know how much your international call is going to cost. If
you give them a wrong amount you're in for some extra hassel and
they sometimes won't give you your refund.

Also, I described in the conversation AT&T's method of completing
an international call using coins and this is how it's always
done. If you don't know how a call is made, the operator will
know something's fishy. The phone will only hold $3.00 at a

Third, you don't want to keep using the same international
numbers over and over again. Call me crazy, but I just don't
think it's a good idea. Below, I'll tell how to do all this:

The (Dramatic Pause...) Letter I Got:
------------------------------------ For awhile in Indianapolis,
Indiana I was doing pretty well with AT&T cash. I was actually
considering it my second source of income because I was pulling
in around $70 a week with it. Then in October of 1993 I got a
letter from AT&T which read:

Dear (My real name):

Our records indicate a large number of coin refund requests. In
light of this history, we cannot provide a refund until AT&T
investigates and verifies this claim. As part of this
investigation, please provide us with the written detail of the
call and circumstances in which you lost your money. Please mail
your explanation to:  Coin Refund Investigation Unit
                      P. O. Box 561615
                      Charlotte, NC 28256-1615

It's been over a year now and I never really heard from them
again. Their "investigation" probably consisted of sitting on
their asses and waiting for my reply. Of course I didn't send
them one and since then I've moved out of state and continue to
recieve a moderate amount of AT&T money.

Divirting Addresses: ------------------- After the AT&T Letter
incident, I aquired a check cashing card at the super- market
under a false name and then sent in a post office "Change Of
Address" card to Baton Rouge and diverted the mail at a certain
address under my fake name to my post office box in
Indianapolis. When AT&T asked for the address to send the check
to, I gave them the address in Baton Rouge and it was forwarded
to me in Indianapolis. So I still got my AT&T cash. They just
didn't know it.

Getting An International Number: -------------------------------
You can get a number a few ways. One is to look in the front of
your phone book and find the page on completing international
calls. All the major country and city codes are in there. You
can just make up a number of random using a country and city
code and then a bunch of numbers. Keep in mind, though, that
foriegn countries numbers aren't all 7 digits like ours are.

Look up Airlines in your yellow pages. Call the 800 number for
any airline you want and say you want a time table for Egypt or
any country you choose. They'll take your name & address and
send you some useless flight schedule junk. Somewhere in this
little booklet is a whole page of international numbers. Use
them, one by one...

Call up a phone book ordering office like Ameritech or Dontech
and order a phone book from a far away place like Australia or
Belgium. You can have them send you a bill with it which you
will ignore or you can charge it to somebody else's phone
number. Never give them your real name or phone number unless
you actually want to pay for it. (You honest person, you...)

The last way is to choose from the below list that I have
provided for you. The first few numbers are the country code,
second numbers are the city code and the last few are the phone
number. Use these to start your new hobby.

  London, England 44 071 633-9293       Paris, France 33 1
  Frankfort, Germany 49 69 291-001      Nice, France 33 93
  Barcelona, Spain 34 3 318-8443        Madrid, Spain 34 1
  Rome, Italy 39 6 321-0822             Stockholm, Sweden 46 8
  Tel Aviv, Israel 972 3 528-9660       Zurich, Switzerland 41 1
  Brussels, Belgium 32 2 640-1900       Bangkok, Thailand 66 2

Finding Out How Much Your Call Costs:
------------------------------------ Let's say that you picked a
number in England. The country code is 44 and the city code is
462 which is Letchworth Hertz. The phone number is 682-734. Go
to your pay fone and dial: 011-44-462-682-734.

An operator will come on and ask how you're paying for your call.
Tell her with coins. (Or, to piss her off, nickels.) She'll tell
you your call will come to $4.65 for the first minute. That's
all you need out of her so tell her to go to hell and hang up.
You now know that your call is worth $4.65 and that's how much
you tell the AT&T operator for your refund.

How They Complete International Calls:
------------------------------------- So let's say that you were
really going to make that call. She would tell you the call
costs $4.65 and for you to deposit $3.00 now. You put in three
bucks worth of quarters and you hear the phone start ringing
over there in England. (Real funky ring, too!) As soon as the
dude in England answers, the operator says to him, "This is
AT&T, I have an international call. Please hold..." Then she
tells you to put in the other $1.65. After you do that, she gets
off the line and you're connected to England for a whole three
minutes until a recording pops back up on the line and asks you
for four more bucks.

The reason you put the three in first is because the phone can
only handle three bucks at a time. The refund operator knows
this and tries to throw you off by asking what happened when you
tried to complete your call. NOW you know what to tell her.

I guess that's about all you need to know to get lots and lots of
money from AT&T. Since the amount of the check is so small you
can usually convince the bank or a supermarket to cash it for
you with no I.D. so sometimes you don't even have to use your
real name on the check. I always do, though. Hope you find this
as helpful as I do when I'm real low on cash. If nothing, it
should piss your parents off. Cactus.


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