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Rec.Gambling Casino Locations FAQ:





Archive-name: gambling-faq/casinos
URL: http://www.conjelco.com/faq/casino.html

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Frequently Asked Questions about (Casino) Locations

This is the (Casino) Location section of the rec.gambling Frequently Asked
Questions (FAQ) list.

Changes or additions to this section of the FAQ should be submitted to:
jacobs@xmission.com.

Page last modified: 12-28-94
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Table of Contents

Section L: Location of Casinos
L1 What are the phone numbers for hotels/casinos in Las Vegas?
L2 Where is my favorite Las Vegas casino? (MAP)
L3 What are some cheap places to stay in Vegas?
L4 What are some good places to play/stay in Reno?
L5 Where is Elko Nevada?
L6 Where is Foxwoods?
L7 Where is Turning Stone?

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Q:L1 What are the phone numbers for hotels/casinos in Las Vegas?
A:L1 (Eric Vincent, Jim Piercy, Blair Houghton, John Schwab, Bryan Richhart)

Call the 800 Information service at 1-800-555-1212 and ask them for the number
for that hotel, giving the city (AC, Vegas, Reno, etc.) If the facility has no
WATS line, the answer is to dial long-distance information (which is _free_)
for Las Vegas at 1-702-555-1212 or AC at 1-609-555-1212 and ask them.

The following is a list of toll-free numbers for the hotels/casinos in Las
Vegas. The source is "Tourguide Magazine" of May 3, 1991. This is a weekly
tourist publication in LV. (Updated Sept. 20, 1993 to match "The Unofficial
Guide to Las Vegas")

  Aladdin             (800) 634-3424   The Nevada Palace       (800) 634-6283
  Alexis Park         (800) 582-2228   O'Sheas Casino          (702) 792-0777
  Arizona Charlie's   (800) 342-2695   Paddlewheel             (800) 782-2600
  Bally's Resort      (800) 634-3434   Palace Station          (800) 634-3101
  Barbary Coast       (800) 634-6755   Park Hotel                ( CLOSED )
  Binion's Horseshoe  (800) 237-6537   Quality Inn             (800) 634-6617
  Bourbon Street      (800) 634-6956   Ramada Las Vegas        (800) 634-6599
  Caesars Palace      (800) 634-6661   Ramada Suites-St. Trop. (800) 666-5400
  California Hotel    (800) 634-6255   Rio Suite Hotel/Casino  (800) 888-1808
  Circus Circus       (800) 634-3450   Riviera Hotel           (800) 634-6753
  Continental Hotel   (800) 634-6641   Royal Hotel & Casino    (800) 634-6118
  Desert Inn          (800) 634-6906   Sahara Hotel            (800) 634-6666
  Dunes Hotel           ( CLOSED )     Sam's Town              (800) 634-6371
  El Cortez           (800) 634-6703   Sands Hotel             (800) 634-6901
  El Rancho             ( CLOSED )     Santa Fe                (800) 872-6823
  Excalibur           (800) 937-7777   Showboat Hotel          (800) 826-2800
  Fitzgerald's        (800) 274-5825   Silver City             (702) 732-4152
  Flamingo Hilton     (800) 732-2111   Slots-A-Fun             (702) 734-0410
  Four Queens         (800) 634-6045   Stardust Hotel          (800) 634-6757
  Fremont Hotel       (800) 634-6182   Townhall/Vagabond       (800) 634-6541
  Frontier Hotel      (800) 634-6966   Tropicana               (800) 468-9494
  Gold Coast          (800) 331-5334   Vacation Village        (800) 658-5000
  Gold Spike          (800) 634-6703   Plaza                   (800) 634-6575
  Golden Gate         (800) 426-0521   Vegas World             (800) 634-6277
  Golden Nugget       (800) 634-3454   Western Hotel           (800) 634-6703
  Hacienda Hotel      (800) 634-6713   Westward Ho             (800) 634-6803
  Harrah's Casino     (800) 634-6765   Colorado Belle          (800) 458-9500
  Hotel Nevada        (800) 637-5777   Edgewater Hotel         (800) 67-RIVER
  Hotel San Remo      (800) 522-7366   Flamingo Hilton         (800) HILTONS
  Imperial Palace     (800) 634-6441   Golden Nugget           (800) 237-1739
  Lady Luck           (800) 523-9582   Harrah's                (800) 447-8700
  Las Vegas Club      (800) 634-6532   Pioneer                 (800) 634-3469
  Las Vegas Hilton    (800) 732-7117   Ramada Express          (800) 2-RAMADA
  Mardi Gras Inn      (800) 634-6501   Regency Casino          (800) 551-1950
  Maxim Hotel         (800) 634-6987   Riverside Resort        (800) 227-3849
  Mirage              (800) 627-6667   Sam's Town Gold River   (800) 835-7903
  Luxor               (800) 288-1000   MGM                     (800) 929-1111
  Treasure Island     (800) 944-7444

[ The following is a list of toll-free numbers for the hotels/casinos in
Atlantic City. -- John Schwab]

  Bally's Grand          (800) 257-8677    Sands             (800) 257-8580
  Bally's Park Place     (800) 225-5977    Showboat          (800) 621-0200
  Caesars Atlantic City  (800) 257-8555    Tropicana         (800) 257-6227
  Claridge               (800) 257-7676    Trump Castle      (800) 441-5551
  Harrah's Marina        (800) 242-7724    Trump Plaza       (800) 441-0909
  Resorts International  (800) 438-7424    Trump Taj Mahal   (800) 825-8786

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Q:L2 Where is my favorite Las Vegas casino? (MAP)
A:L2 (Yui-Bin Chen)

Maps

I. Las Vegas Map (Not to scale)

                                                //         /       //
                                              I-15        /     LV Blvd
                         |                    //         /       //
                         |                   //         /       //
       N       ====(95)=============================================(515)=====
                         |                 //         /   /   //
       |                 |                //         /---/---//-Steward-Ave
       |                 R               //         / See   //
     --+--               a              //         /Downtown/--Ogden-Ave
       |                 n             //         /   for //
       |                 c            //         /  Details
                         h           //         /---/---//----Fremont-St
              |          o          ||         /   /   //
              |          |          ||        /   /   //
              |          D          ||       /   /   //
              |          r          ||      M   /   //
Charleston-Blvd----------+----------||------a------//---------------
              |          |          ||      i     //
              |          |         //       n    //
              V          |        //        |   //
              a          |       //         S  //
              l          |      //          t //
              l          |     //           |//
              e          |    //          VW//
Sahara-Ave----y--------------//------------//-----------------------
              |       PS    //            //Sa|
              V            //            //   |-Karen-Ave
              i           //    Circus^2//Riv |LVH        VW  Vegas World
              e          //   SlotsAFun//     |           Sa  Sahara
              w        I-15           //SC    |           PS  Palace Station
              |        //            //       |           LVC Las Vegas Hilton
              B       //    Stardust//-C-Ctr--|Las Vegas  Riv Riviera
              l      //            //         |Convention SC  Silver City
              v     ||            //          |Center
              d     ||   Frontier//`----------+---------
              |     ||          //            |
              |     ||         //DesertInn    P
              |     ||        //              a
Spring-Mountain-Rd--||-- FSM ||               r          FSM Fashion Show Mall
              |     ||  \____||               a          BM  Boulevard Mall
              |     ||       ||\              d     BM
              |     ||       || `---Sands-Ave-i---------
              |     ||     TI||Sands          s
              |     ||       ||               e           TI Treasure Island
              |     || Mirage||               |           BC Barbary Coast
              |     ||       ||Harrah's       R           GC Gold Coast
              |     ||       ||Imperial       d
              |     ||Caesars||Flamingo       |
           GC |Rio  ||       ||BC      Maxim  |
Flamingo-Rd---------||-------||---------------+---------
                    ||       ||Bally's        |Continental
                    ||       ||               |
                    ||       ||               |
                    ||       ||Aladdin        |      UNLV
                    ||       ||----------Harmon-Ave-.
                   I-15      ||               |     |
                    ||       ||               |     `---
                    ||       ||               |
                    ||       ||               |
                    ||       ||MGMGrand       |
Tropicana-Ave-------||-------||---------------+---------
            Howard  ||    Exc||Tropicana      |
                    ||       ||               |
                    ||       ||                           Exc Excalibur
                    ||  Luxor||                           Ha  Hacienda
                    ||       ||
                    ||       ||
                    ||     Ha||
                    ||       ||
                    ||       ||
                    ||       ||
                    ||       ||        McCarran
                    ||     Strip    International
                    ||    (LV Bl)      Airport
                    ||       ||

                        Vacation
                        Village

II. Downtown Las Vegas map (not to scale)


                  I-15      Main St    Casino Ctr   4th St   LV Blvd
                   //         /           /           /     //
      N           //         /           /           /     //
                 //         /-----------/-----------/-----//-Steward-Ave
      |         //         /     /     /     /     /     //
      |        //         /     /     /     /     /     //
    --+--     //         /Cal  /     /     / Lady/  GS //
      |      //         /-----/-----/-----/-----/-----//-------Ogden-Ave
      |     //         /     /     /     /     /     //
           //         /     /     /     /     /     //
          //         /     /     /     /     /     //
         //         /     /     /     /     /     // ElCortez
        //         / LVC / HS  / Fre /     /     //
       //   Jackie/-----/-----/-----/-----/-----//------------Fremont-St
      //         /GG PC/  GN /  4Q / Fitz/     //
     ||         /     /     /     /     /     //
     ||        /HN   /     /     /     /     //
     ||       /-----/   RV/-----/-----/-----//
     ||      /     /     /     /     /     //
-----||------|----------------------------//-------------Charleston-Blvd
     ||      |  1st St      3rd St       //
     ||      |                          //
    I-15   Main St                   LV Blvd

     4Q     Four Queens
     Cal    California Hotel
     Fitz   Fitzgeralds
     Fre    Fremont
     GG     Golden Gate
     GN     Golden Nugget
     GS     Gold Spike
     HN     Hotel Nevada
     HS     Binion's Horseshoe
     Jackie Jackie Gaughan's Plaza
     Lady   Lady Luck
     LVC    Las Vegas Club
     PC     Pioneer Club
     RV     Rainbow Vegas

Directory

(see FAQ L1 for phone numbers of casinos)

LOCAL PHONE NUMBERS (*NOT* toll-free numbers):

  Boulevard Mall                1-702-735-8268
  Convention Center             1-702-733-2323
  Fashion Show Mall             1-702-369-8382
  Forum Shops at Caesars        1-702-893-4800
  McCarran Airport              1-702-261-5743
  Meadows Mall                  1-702-878-4849
  Mirage Golf Club              1-702-369-7111
  Pioneer Club                  1-702-386-5000
  Silver City                   1-702-732-4152
  Slots-A-Fun                   1-702-734-0410
  Thomas & Mack Center          1-702-739-3900
  Transportation Center         1-702-799-6025

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Q:L3 What are some cheap places to stay in Vegas?
A:L3 (Ron Birnbaum)

In response to those looking for nice but inexpensive accommodations in Vegas,
I can recommend two places:

Downtown:
The Ogden House - Fremont Street
     I don't have their number, but some friends stayed there in June for $18
     per night, and found it clean and comfortable. Their phone number is (702)
     385-5200.

Strip:
King Alburt Motel, 185 Albert Ave. (off Kovel, behind the Maxim)
     It's behind the Flamingo Hilton/Imperial Palace/Barbary Coast area. Every
     unit is furnished with a kitchen, tv, and private bath, with simple but
     clean furnishings. Their location is ideal, and they quoted me day rates
     of $25/wk $40/wkend per night for a single. And these prices were for
     March,('92) - usually a busy and high priced season. And you can do even
     better than these rates for a weekly rental. They are happy to negotiate!
     Their phone number is (800)-553-7753 or (702) 732- 1555

     Caveat Emptor: Another rec.gambler says to avoid this place, it is a dump.

Call the Las Vegas Tourism Bureau for details of other low-cost area lodging.
They have an toll-free number - 1-800-522-9555. Woops - I just called it and
they only handle casinos.

But these 800 numbers DO handle the smaller places as well. I called the LV
Chamber of Commerce for these numbers, and they had even more than these:

800 - 548-2008
800 - 345-7177

Through the 7177 number, I arranged a room in the beautiful new tower at the
Stardust for much lower than what the hotel quoted me directly, also at a lower
rate than the other 800 numbers could offer (32/wk 40/wkend). They are a room
'wholesaler' and seem to be the best place to make reservations through. The
new tower at the Stardust is supposed to be ****1/2, according to Julie - the
agent I spoke with. She also asked for a high floor which she said have
spectacular views of the entire strip.

They know all the deals in town! Good luck, hotel bargain hunters!!
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Q:L4 What are some good places to play/stay in Reno?
A:L4 (Mike Northam)

[Note: This kind of information tends to become outdated quickly, so "your
mileage may vary"]

Well, this is just IMHO, of course. For cheap rooms: Circus Circus,
Fitzgerald's downtown. If you're going to be gambling something more than
nickels ($5 bets), you might call a place like the Flamingo Hilton and get a
credit application. Then you'll qualify for the "gambler's rate", which will
usually be about half price. You've gotta gamble for at least four hours per
day to get this, in most casinos. The best rooms are at Harrah's, but they have
standard northern Nevada rules. (If you're a gambler, check with their VIP
services to see if they have any special deals going. They often have special
packages if you buy-in for $1200, or some such.)

Best gambling for BJ: Flamingo Hilton (mostly double deck), Clarion, CalNeva
(Top Deck only), Reno Hilton (mostly double deck) (roughly in that order).
Everyplace else runs northern Nevada rules, I think.

Craps: most every place has double odds. You can play for 25 cents at the
Palomino (?) in Sparks and at one of the dives in downtown (Nevada Club?--can't
remember).

[The Union Plaza and it's 25c, 10x-odds Craps tables are one of the best and
most consistent pure gambling deals in Vegas. -- Blair Houghton]

Shows: well, my favorite is the planetarium at the University of Nevada :-).
Reno is not a big show town, but Harrah's usually has some country western star
and sometimes a decent cabaret act. The Flamingo Hilton has a comedy club and
usually a pretty good lounge act (which you can watch while you play BJ, which
is fun). Reno Hilton has a big stage show. The big headliners usually are found
at Tahoe, not Reno.

Restaurants: I've always liked the Presidential Car (I think in Harold's--I
never can remember). A romantic (and expensive) meal can be had at sunset at
the Top of the Hilton. Several people have mentioned a good Italian restaurant
at the El Dorado, but I haven't tried it myself. Harrah's has a pretty good $5
or so buffet, but their other restaurants are only so-so. Reno Hilton has a
nice steak house. If you like screaming kids with your meals, check out Circus
Circus (though I haven't been there for years, so maybe things have changed?).

Since you've never been to Reno before, I should mention that you can easily
walk to all the downtown casinos. There's a shuttle bus from downtown to Reno
Hilton (the closest to the airport--we traditionally stop in there on our way
out of town for a few hours). There's also a group of casinos in Sparks
(centered around John Ascuaga's Nugget). If you have a car, the Peppermill
(popular with the yuppie crowd) and the Clarion (Reno's newest casino, and
quite nice) are out on south Virginia St.
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Q:L5 Where is Elko Nevada?
A:L5 (Mike Northam, Steve Jacobs)

[NOTE: Elko is about 120 miles west of the Utah/Nevada border. --SRJ]

Casino Express (800) 258-8800 or (800) 654-0888 in Canada, owned by the people
who run the Elko Red Lion Inn, runs numerous junkets to Elko, NV. They own at
least one Boeing 737 aircraft, and charter several others on weekends. They fly
from several western cities (Seattle, Bellingham, Spokane, Portland, Eugene,
Salem, San Jose, Fresno, Modesto, Santa Maria, Ontario, Denver, Salt Lake City,
etc.) and have multiple-day junkets from Canadian and midwest cities
(Minneapolis, Mason City, etc.)

The casino has BJ, single and double deck, Northern Nevada rules (H17, DD 10/11
only). $5 minimum for single deck. Penetration varies with the dealer, so there
apparently isn't a house rule. There is no heat whatsoever, so 10:1 spreads are
no problem. During the 'gambling frenzy' of the last few moments before the
airport bus departs, *massive* spreads are possible--I've gone from $5 to $200
(40:1) no problem. All the tables are *always* full, so two rounds of seven is
all you'll see on the single deck. There's also craps, roulette, and a small
sports book. Keno for the truly adventuresome :-).

From Portland, the junket cost is $49 for a 12-hour turnaround flight [these
are $19 from Salt Lake, so you're price may vary], you have to show $300 in
cash to board the flight. Since it's a charter flight, there is a nice party
atmosphere on board the plane. Your play is rated, and presumably, if you don't
gamble enough, you might be barred from a future flight, though this hasn't
been a problem for any of my friends.

Elko also has a poker room, but it doesn't open until 5 pm. They play 7-stud
($1-$4) and Texas Hold'em ($4-$10). These can be great games if there are
several junket people (junkies?) at the table. You can also fleece the locals
if you catch them off guard, since they have great difficulty believing that
anyone who flies to Elko could know anything about poker.
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Q:L6 Where is Foxwoods?
A:L6 (Dave Tahajian)

Foxwoods is located within an Indian reservation in Ledyard, Conn. It is
located approx. 15 miles SW of the Rhode Island/Conn border, 15 miles NW of
Mystic Conn, 40 miles South of Worcester Mass, and 40 miles NE of Hartford
Conn. Foxwoods is located directly on Rt. 2, almost in the middle of I395 and
I95 (which run in parallel). It's an 1.5 hour ride from Boston, 1+ hour ride
from Hartford or Providence, and 2.5 hour ride from NYC (all approximations).
[Foxwoods is at the intersection of Routes 2 and 214 -- Dave Everett]

Foxwoods is *not* your run of the mill Indian casino, in fact you would have a
hard time finding any Indians at all! It's huge, very clean and well run and
very professional. Many of the managers and floormen come from LV or AC. I
would compare it to any other nice casino in AC or LV. You may be apprehensive
as you drive though the miles of corn fields when getting there, but this soon
disappears as soon as you walk though the doors. They have on site ATM machines
(which gives out nice new $100 bills!), credit card cash advance machines, and
will even setup a credit line for you (call ahead for this).

There are two hotels on site. One called the "Two Trees Inn" is located across
the street from the casino and provides a free 24 hour shuttle. The main hotel
is built above the casino itself (name unknown). It features valet parking as
well as a self service parking garage, while the Two Trees has outside self
service parking only. The Two Trees has about 200 rooms and costs less than the
main hotel, which has about 500 rooms. As of 1/94, the Two Trees cost $49
weekday and $89 weekend, while the main casino cost $20 more per night (for a
standard room). Suites are extra.

Foxwoods uses a comp system where you are given a credit card (called a "Wampum
card") which you give to the floorperson when you begin a session. You gain
"Wampum points" based on your avg. bet, the game you are playing, and the
amount of time you play. These points can be used at any of the casino's
restaurants, shops, and the hotels, where 1 point = $1. So if you have 49
points, you can stay at the Two Trees one weekday for free! You can get your
"Wampum Card" for free at the promotions booth (must show picture ID).

Wampum points are given for any game, including poker. Examples are:

  1. You play BJ, your avg bet is $10 and you use basic strategy, you will earn
     10 points per hour play.

  2. In 1-5/6-12 7stud or 3-6/6-12 holdem or 5-10 omaha, you'll get 1/2 point
     per hour (pot rake but no time charge)

  3. In 10-20 7stud or holdem, you get 1 point per hour (no rake but $10/hour
     time charge).

Note that in poker, you must "sign out" when you leave the game, otherwise your
points will be forfeited.

There are really two casinos, the "original one" located at the main entrance
near the bingo hall, and the "new one" located below the main hotel. You can
tell the difference by the colors, the new one uses a purple color scheme, and
the original one uses aqua. The poker room is located downstairs near the main
entrance of the original casino, under the waterfall.

Foxwoods has many restaurants on site, including an all you can eat buffet, a
grill, Chinese, Italian, and steak rooms, plus a couple of self service
snack-bars for sandwiches and pizza slices. The poker room offers table service
for players, and you can get it comped too (via your Wampum card)!

Most people get to Foxwoods via car or charter buses. There is no major airport
in the immediate area, and no trains which go directly to Ledyard. The closest
train service goes to nearby Mystic, which is a 20 minute drive away (taxi cost
$20). Nearest major airport is in T.F Green in Warwick, RI which is 1 hour
drive away.

There are several other hotels in nearby Mystic which offer free shuttle
service to Foxwoods. There are two valet parking services, one at the main
casino entrance and one at the main hotel entrance. Also lots of free self
parking. If the lots are full, try parking at the Two Trees Inn or one of the
auxiliary lots located on Rt. 2 and take the free shuttle to the casino. My
favorite place to park is in the garage under the main hotel, just take the
elevator up to the casino!

Foxwoods offers almost all casino games, plus a 50+ table poker room. They also
have slots, a horse book, keno, and a massive bingo room which holds major
events approx every month.

BJ conditions are multi deck shoe (6 or 8), ~ 70% penetration, S17, DOA, DAS,
no resplit Aces, and some tables offer O/U and "super 7s" side bets. Also all
"back line" betting where up to 2 others can bet on one hand, and the person
sitting makes the decisions. The combined bet of all players cannot exceed the
maximum.

No heat has been reported of, and there are no special rules for late entry
into the shoe in progress. Minimums are $5 if not busy, $10-$15 otherwise.
There are always two $2 tables open, but these have a long wait. Rec.gambler
"Dave Cantor" deals BJ there... just show him your BARGE chip for instant
recognition, or say "presto" when dealt a BJ :-)

The poker room features 7stud, holdem and omaha. Limits are:

     7stud hi: 1-5, 3-6, 6-12, 10-20, 15-30, 20-40, 30-60, 50-100*
     7stud hi/lo 8 qualify: 15-30*, 20-40*
     holdem: 3-6, 6-12, 10-20, 15-30*, 20-40*, 30-60*
     omaha hi/lo 8 qualify: 5-10, 10-20*

     * these usually are run on busy weekends/holidays.

There is also a tournament every Wednesday night which switches between 7stud
and holdem on alternative weeks. Buy in is $25 plus $10 fee, no re-buys. Top 8
players get $$$.

I don't know much about the craps game, except the min is $10 if not busy,
$15-$25 otherwise. Same goes for Roulette.

For even more info, call them at 800-PLAYBIG.
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Q:L7 Where is Turning Stone?
A:L7 (Dave "4" Everett)

The Turning Stone Casino is an enterprise of the Oneida Indian Nation of New
York, and is located just a fraction of a mile off I-90 in Verona, NY (exit 33
of the NY State Thruway).

There is six-deck blackjack, and single-deck blackjack. As of this writing
(9/94) the rules are:

     S17
     Double any 2 first cards except a point count of 21
     Split any pair
     Split aces get only one card each
     Other pairs may be resplit up to four hands
     Double after split (EXCEPT on single deck games, no double after split)

     Lowest table minimum was $5, even on single-deck BJ!

They also have craps (double odds), roulette, mini-baccarat, red dog,money
wheel, fruit wheel, keno, caribbean stud, and pai gow poker.

They have a coffee shop with very reasonable prices open 0000 to 1600, and in
the same room, a dinner buffet for $14 open 1600 to ????. They also have a
"cafe'" with counter service only, open most of the time (perhaps all).

Comps are reasonably easy. Four hours of $10 BJ got this writer brunch at the
coffee shop, and another four hours earned a dinner buffet. Your mileage may
vary.

Lodging is available nearby. If you want fancy lodging, stay in Syracuse or
Utica, depending upon whether you're traveling from the east or the west.

Turning Stone's telephone number is 315-361-7711.
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