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Yaesu FT-470 modifications





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                         Yaesu FT-470 MODS
                        Rev D (Aug 28, 1992)


This is a collection of hardware and software mods for the Yaesu 470.
I have collected every mod seen on the net (ie. Usenet) since the
introduction of the 470, so I think this list is fairly complete.  I
am interested in getting updates and corrections to this list, so
please send me e-mail if you find something that needs updating.
(This includes typos, wrong or missing attributions, caveats, warnings
about unmentioned side effects, serial numbers of radios that won't do
some of these mods, etc.)

SOME OF THESE MODIFICATIONS CAN DAMAGE YOUR RADIO IF YOU PERFORM
THEM IMPROPERLY.  WHEN IN DOUBT, DO NOT PERFORM THE MODIFICATION.

This advice is free, so remember that you get what you pay for.

        Brian McMinn (brian@nucleus.amd.com)
        N5PSS
        512-462-5389

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Full Reset:

        Effect: Severe! :-)

        1) Make hard (paper) copy of all memory info
        2) Turn radio off
        3) Hold down VFO and MR and turn radio on
        4) Replace all memory contents

        Notes:  This will reset the auto repeater offset function, so
        you will need to re-enable it if you use it.  This will also
        disable (mask) all memories except #1, so you will have to
        enable each of them by hand.

        Attributed: Yaesu

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MARS Mod:

        Effect: Enable extended 2m receive, 2m transmit

        1) Make hard (paper) copy of all memory info
        2) Turn radio off
        3) Hold down up-arrow and down-arrow and turn radio on
        4) Replace all memory contents

        Notes:  This mod wipes all memory contents.  This is a "toggle"
        mod in that it can be un-done by repeating the above steps.
        The normal->MARS mod only wipes the memories.  The MARS->
        normal mod not only wipes the memories, it appears to do a
        complete controller reset (see above).

        Result: Receive range 130-180 MHz, transmit 140-151MHz (I
        think, I haven't tried it.)

        Attributed: Yaesu

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Crossband Repeat:

        Effect: Enable crossband repeat

        1) Dial up two frequencies you want to crosslink (be sure to
           pay attention to transmit offsets, if any)
        2) Turn radio off.
        3) Hold down the RPT key and turn radio on

        Result:  The tone encode/decode flags and the -+ flags will be
        flashing and the radio will be in low power mode.  When either
        band's squelch opens, the other band is moved into the primary
        frequency display and the transmitter keys.  Audio link
        appears to be speaker to mike.

        Attributed: Collier Chun (NM7B @ WA7ARI)

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Crossband Repeat Audio Cable:

        Effect:  Provide better audio for crossband repeat.

        1) Parts:
                a) mini plug
                b) 100K ohm resistor
                c) sub-mini plug
        2) Assemble cable with resistor connecting the tips of the two
           plugs.  The shield (ground) is not connected.
        3) Plug it between the earphone jack and the mike jack.

        Result:  Very good crossband audio.  The level is controllable
        with the volume control.

        Bugs:  You can't listen to what is being repeated.

        Attributed: Keith McQueen (N7HMF @ NV7V.UT.USA.NA)

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Clone Mode:

        Effect:  Allow editing of transmit and receive frequencies.

        1) Turn radio off.
        2) Hold down F key and turn radio on.

        Result:  All segments of display are turned on.  The radio
        will send data out the microphone tip when up-arrow is
        pressed.  The radio will receive data when the down-arrow is
        pressed.

        Bugs:  I have yet to hear of someone who has done this
        successfully.  Please tell me if you know how it works!

        Attributed:  szarekw@LONEX.RADC.AF.MIL (William J. Szarek)

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Internal Jumper Mods:

        Effect:  Change radio from US to European to ???
                 Wide band receive

        I have located a total of eight straps, four to the left of
        the lithium battery, and four others under the flat white
        cable that interconnects the upper half with the lower half.


                        Yeasu FT-470 Straps

        R69  Vertical, at the 10 o'clock position by the lithium cell
        R68  Horizontal, to the lower left of R69
        R67  Horizontal, just below R68
        R66  Horizontal, just below R67

        R71  Vertical, the leftmost of three, to the left of the upper
             corner of the ribbon cable connector.
        R70  Vertical, the center of three of which R71 is the leftmost
        R72  Vertical, the rightmost of the three
        R74  Vertical, to the left of the ribbon cable connector, below
             the three.  (Note that R74 is below an unpopulated capacitor
             that does not have a C number.

        There is no R73, or at least it is not on the circuit board
        and it is not in the schematic.  And, yes, the order of those
        three is indeed R71, R70, R72, left-to-right.



                        UHF CHOICES
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        R71     R70     R72     Rx and Tx       Rx only
        --------------------------------------------------
        0       0       0       430 to 440      430 to 500
        0       0       1       430 to 450
        0       1       0       430 to 440
        0       1       1       432 to 438
        1       0       0       430 to 440**
        1       0       1       220 to 225
        1       1       0       430 to 440
        1       1       1       210 to 235
        --------------------------------------------------

        ** This is the normal European configuration.



                        VHF CHOICES
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        R66     R67     R68     R69     Rx and Tx       Rx only
        ----------------------------------------------------------
        0       0       0       0        144 to  146    130 to 180
        0       0       0       1        144 to  146
        0       0       1       0       1260 to 1300
        0       0       1       1       1240 to 1300
        0       1       0       0        140 to  150*   130 to 180
        0       1       0       1        140 to  174
        0       1       1       0        303 to  343
        0       1       1       1        8AL to  242
        1       0       0       0        144 to  148
        1       0       0       1        144 to  146**
        1       0       1       0       1240 to 1300
        1       0       1       1        404 to  444
        1       1       0       0        140 to  160
        1       1       0       1       1260 to 1300
        1       1       1       0        101 to  141
        1       1       1       1        1R3 to 158L
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        * This is the normal US configuration after MARS mod.
        ** This is the normal European configuration.

        (Note: the receive only ranges are enabled by powering up the
        unit with the up and down arrow buttons depressed...kjm)

        When there is more than one combination which has the same
        frequency range, the difference is the default step size
        and/or the default repeater offset.  Of course, choices that
        do not match the VCO and filters do not actually transmit or
        receive on those frequencies.  A particularly strange example
        is that the VHF side of the set can be set to tune from 404 to
        444 MHz, but again, it won't actually lock.  Even in the
        101-141 mode, the VHF VCO will not lock - this must be for use
        with some other sort of VCO (It looks like this would cover
        the aeronautical band rather nicely.)  There are two really
        wierd VHF settings, those for 8AL-242 and 1R3-158L.  These
        must be for use with some other LCD controller - it displays
        truly unusual and non sequential thins when stepped through
        the "bands".

        R74 seems to have something to do with selecting the IF
        frequency, or something similar.  When set, it really screws
        up the VHF reception.

        My technique for determining these straps is to remove the
        straps that come in the unit, solder wires to each pad, run
        the wires out of the unit to a bank of DIP switches, screw the
        unit back together, and then go through all of the DIP switch
        combinations.  I usually use a stereo microscope and 30 guage
        wire for this.  Since I didn't try powering the unit on with
        every combination of keys held down for each DIP switch
        combination, there may still be other secrets possible.

        I was looking for something like receive and transmit from
        zero to infinity, but I didn't find it.  I determined, from
        studying the schematic, that there should be a hiddem
        strapping diode from CPU pin 2 to CPU pin 22.  I installed
        one, but nothing changed.  In fact, changing it and powering
        the unit up did not cause a reset.  Therefore, I concluded
        that this really wasn't a mystery strap, afterall.  However,
        there could be others.  I'm trying to get a data sheet for the
        CPU, from Hitachi, to see if any of the grounded pins are
        actually I/O pins -- they might be good candidates,
        particularly if their traces are routed in such a way as to be
        easily accessible for cutting.

        I've learned that one of the ways to get some of the other,
        new Yeasu handhelds to go out-of-band involves dumping data
        out of the clone port, editing the data, and then dumping it
        back in.  I called Yeasu and asked if the FT-470 could be
        cloned.  They said no, so I ignored them.  I haven't figured
        out how to get it to dump data, but I believe it will accept
        data.  The clone mode is entered by powering up the unit with
        the F key held down.  (It's also a neat way to see all of the
        indicators on the LCD!)  The data must be presented in the
        ring ("right channel") of a stereo 2.5 millimeter plug which
        is placed into the mic jack.  This is cryptically marked on
        the schematic, anyway.  However, I have no idea what the
        format for the data should be.  If you come across this, I'd
        love to know.  This may be the trap door to getting the rig to
        receive and transmit in more interesting places.

        Attributed: Ed Boakes (WB3FLD) att!hocpa!ewb

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VHF Transmit mod:

        Effect:  Enables extended VHF transmit (this is exactly the
            same as one of the previously listed mods).

        1) Open the radio such that the two halves open like a sandwich.
        2) Locate the internal lithium battery
        3) Locate several solder pads to the left of the lithium battery.
        4) Just to the top left of the lithium battery is ONE vertical
           solder pad (a.k.a. R69).  It is almost under the top left
           edge of the battery.
        5) solder a jumper accross this pad.

        Result:  Extended VHF transmit

        Bugs:  The automatic repeater shift (- offset below 147,
        + above etc...) goes away with this mod.

        Attributed: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
        Also attributed to: Bernie NU1S @ K1UGM

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Software UHF Receive Expansion:

        Effect:  extend UHF Rx to 500MHz without shrinking Tx range

        How:  Trick 470 into accepting big number in U register.

        Caveat:  This mod acts differently on different radios.

        1) Turn the beep on.  (Some, perhaps all, 470's require that
           the key-press-beep function be on in order to do this.)
        2) Program the frequency of 450.00 MHz simplex.
        3) Set the repeater offset to zero (F/M RPT 0000) but DON'T
           get out of the set mode (don't hit RPT again).
        4) Turn the radio off then back on.
        5) Set a "+" offset (press RPT twice).
        6) Press the REV button one time.
        7) The radio should now display 1450 MHz.(The radio will not
           operate at these frequencies.  My service monitor shows
           that above 500 MHz the rx is very weak.)
        8) Use the shifted down-arrow key to tune this frequency down to
           around 500 MHz (press F/M, press and hold down-arrow).  Yes,
           this takes a while.
        9) Store this in the "U" memory.  (press and hold F/M until
           you hear two beeps, rotate tuning knob until "U" appears in
           upper left, press F/M again).
        10) Reset the repeater offset to 5 MHz.  (F/M RPT 0500 RPT)

        Result:  By selecting the "U" memory and the using the memory
        tune fuction (select "U" memory and then press MR), you can
        tune to the desired frequency and then store it in another
        memory.

        Bugs:  Above 500 MHz, some radios will let you tune up and
        down in frequency, some won't (they jump back to the ham
        band).  Some radios will let you enter a frequency above 500
        MHz on the keyboard while in memory tune mode, some won't.

        Attributed:  Darrell Sego KM9S

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Software Range Extention Tricks:

        Effect:  Force a non-standard frequency into a VFO, store this
        as an upper limit in the "U" or "L" memory.

        Caveat:  For these steps to work properly, I had to have
        "Beep" enabled and *NOT* have the "L" and "U" memories locked
        out.

        Steps for setting the UPPER UHF limit to 500 MHz
        
        1.  Program the frequency for 430.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
        2.  Press F/M, then RPT for the offset.
        3.  Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
        4.  Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on.
        5.  Press RPT key twice for a "+" (plus) offset indication.
        6.  Press REV button once.
        7.  The radio should now display 1430.00 MHz.
        8.  Press F/M then hold the down-arrow key to lower the
            displayed frequency.  Stop when 500.00 MHz is displayed.
        9.  Press RPT once to select simplex operation.
        10. Press F/M and hold until you hear two beeps.
        11. Rotate the (DIAL) knob until the channel "U" is displayed.
        12. Press F/M again, you should hear a beep.
        13. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0500 (5 MHz repeater offset)
            then press RPT again.
        
            - alternative procedure (faster but a little more complicated)
        
        8.  Press RPT twice to select the "-" repeater offset.
        9.  Press REV twice.  Frequency shown should be 630.00 MHz.
        10. Press F/M then hold the down-arrow key to lower the
            displayed frequency.  Stop at 500.00 MHz.
        11. Press RPT twice to select simplex operation.
        12. Go back to #10 in previous list...
        
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        Steps for setting the LOWER UHF limit to 400 MHz.
        
        1.  Program the frequency for 450.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
        2.  Press the F/M, then RPT for the offset.
        3.  Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
        4.  Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on.
        5.  Press RPT once (for a "-" (minus) indicated offset).
        6.  Press REV *THREE* times.
        7.  The radio should now display 050.00 MHz.
        8.  Press F/M, then hold the up-arrow key to increase the
            displayed frequency.  Stop at 400 MHz.
        9.  Store this in the "L" memory.  (See above steps...)
        10. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0500 (5 MHz repeater offset)
            then press RPT again.
        
            - alternative procedure 
            - note:  this short-cut requires you to enter 430.00 MHz
              in step 1.
        
        5.  Press RPT twice for a "+" (plus) indicated
            repeater offset.
        6.  Press REV once.
        7.  Press RPT twice to select the "-" (minus) repeater offset.
        8.  Press REV once.  You should have 1030.00 MHz displayed.
        9.  Press F/M and hold the down-arrow stopping at 999.00 MHz.
        10. Press REV once.  You should have 399.00 MHz displayed.
        11. Press F/M, then hold the up-arrow) key to increase the
            displayed frequency.  Stop at 400 MHz.
        12. Press RPT twice to select simplex operation.
        13. go back to #9 in previous list

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        Steps for setting the UPPER VHF limit to 200 MHz.
        
        1.  Program the frequency for 140.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
        2.  Press F/M, then RPT for the offset.
        3.  Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
        4.  Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on.
        5.  Press RPT twice (for a "+" (plus) indicated offset).
        6.  Press REV *ONE* time.
        7.  The radio should now display 1140.00 MHz.
        8.  Press F/M, then hold the down-arrow key to decrease the
            displayed frequency.  Stop at 800 MHz.
        9.  Press RPT twice to select the "-" (minus) repeater offset.
        10. Press REV once.  You should have 200.000 MHz displayed.
        11. Press RPT twice to select simplex.
        12. Store this in the "U" memory.  (See above steps...)
        13. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0060 (600 Khz repeater
            offset) then press RPT again.
        
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        Steps for setting the LOWER VHF limit to 100 MHz.
        
        1.  Program the frequency for 140.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
        2.  Press the F/M, then RPT for the offset.
        3.  Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
        4.  Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on.
        5.  Press RPT twice (for a "+" (plus) indicated offset).
        6.  Press REV *ONE* time.
        7.  The radio should now display 1140.00 MHz.
        8.  Press F/M, then hold the down-arrow key to decrease the
            displayed frequency.  Stop at 1100 MHz.
        9.  Press RPT twice to select the "-" (minus) repeater offset.
        10. Press REV twice.  You should have 100.000 MHz displayed.
        11. Press RPT twice to select simplex.
        12. Store this in the "L" memory.  (See above steps...)
        13. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0060 (600 Khz repeater
            offset) then press RPT again.

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        Notes:  To use the higher frequencies you have to select the "U"
        channel and press MR.  This puts the handheld in the "MT" (memory
        tune) mode.  From there you can scan down or use the (DIAL) knob to
        go to a lower frequency.  ...Likewise for the lower frequency
        memory.  Any frequency selected using this method can be stored in
        any memory.
        
        My radio will not let me go up in frequency, only down.  If I try, the
        rig will default back to the original ham band.  I had to be careful
        when doing these mods.

        One trick I found when initially setting up the VFO with the
        expanded upper and lower frequencies is that in steps 5 (and 9) if
        you select "+", pressing REV adds 1000 MHz to the display or
        subtracts 1000 MHz if it has already been added.  If you selected
        the "-" (minus) repeater offset, pressing REV will subtract 400 MHz
        if the displayed frequency is 1000 MHz or higher, or subtract 600
        MHz if the displayed frequency is below 1000 MHz, until any more
        subtractions would run the frequency negative, after which it
        alternatively adds or subtracts 600.  You can mix the up-arrow
        down-arrow method with the "+ -" offset/REV combination to reduce
        the time getting to the desired frequency.  With these tricks, many
        permutations can be found to get where you want to be very quickly.

        
        I have discovered the code "5555" works as well as "0000" for the
        enabling code.

        Attributed: fletcher@lode.uwyo.EDU (Walter Reid Fletcher, WB7CJO)

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Fix One-Way Tune Bug in Expanded Receive:

        Effect: Allow tuning in both directions when software range extend
        mods have been performed.

        Due to a loophole in the tuning software, you may tune from the
        current frequency towards the normal operating range (430.00 -
        450.00), but not away.

        Unfortunately, you are still subject to the "tune one way only"
        syndrome.  To bypass it, you must store some frequency in the "L"
        memory.  It doesn't matter what this frequency is, but it has to be
        below the "U" memory and, preferably, below any other frequency you
        want to use.  You may store a very low frequency here too
        (0.00MHz).

        BUT, the software isn't that dumb.  To trick it, both the "L" and
        "U" memories must be filled and active (not set for SKIP), AND you
        must access the out of band frequencies from the MT (memory tune)
        mode, AND you must start from either the "L" or the "U" memory.

        To use MT:
        1) Press MR and select either the L or U memory.
        2) Press MR again, a small MT should appear on the left of the
           display.
        3) You may now tune with the arrow keys, Dial knob, or directly
           enter frequencies with the numeric keypad.

        Attributed: kd6hr.El_Segundo@xerox.com (Pete McAfee)
        [ed.  It looks like Pete may have been the first to discover some
        of these neat tricks... any comments?]

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Out of Band Sensitivity:

        Effect:  This is not a mod.  Just information.

        I measured the sensitivity of my Yaesu FT-470 over frequency
        to see how well it holds up outside of the ham bands.  I
        wanted to see how useful the extended receive info being
        handed out really was.

        The measurement is a relative one.  I was using an HP8657
        Signal Generator, with the internal FM modulation set to 5 KHz
        deviation and a 400 Hz tone.  I input a signal with an
        amplitude of -100 dBm directly into the RF input of the radio.
        I noted the reading on the signal strength meter in the Yaesu.
        On the VHF band the number nine was on steadily, on the UHF
        band the number nine was blinking.  As I changed frequencies I
        adjusted the amplitude of the signal generator to keep the
        signal strength meter on the Yaesu at the same level.  The
        amount I had to crank up the output of the signal generator is
        the reduced sensitivity, here is the data:

        VHF
        freq:   relative sensitivity:
        136     -14 dB
        140      -3 dB
        144      +1 dB
        146       0 dB  reference point
        148      -1 dB
        155      -6 dB
        160     -22 dB
        165     -29 dB
        170     -38 dB
        174     -44 dB
        
        UHF:
        freq:   relative sensitivity:
        400     no reading, nothing, -infinity dB               
        401     -40 dB
        402     -38 dB
        405     -34 dB
        410     -27 dB
        420      -9 dB
        430      +1 dB
        440       0 dB
        450       0 dB
        460     -17 dB
        470     -26 dB

        Results:  The radio is good outside the ham bands, but the
        sensitivity really starts to suffer.  I hear the local police
        at 460.375 quite well, so -17 dB is still usable, but not as
        good as a scanner would probably be.  VHF down to 100 MHz or
        UHF down to 400 MHz is a fantasy.  As I mentioned in another
        post, if the frequency ranges are extended too far, you start
        picking up signals at the wrong frequencies.  National weather
        service (162.4) received at 119 MHz, coast guard channel 12
        (156.8) received at 200 MHz, 2 meter repeaters received around
        190 MHz and again around 182 MHz.  Its hard to say just what
        the usable ranges are, but something like 136-165 MHz in VHF
        and 410-470 MHz in UHF, and even then its not great at the
        ends of these ranges.
        
        Attributed: frankb@hpsad.HP.COM (Frank Ball)
        
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Hyperscan:

        Effect: faster memory scan rate.

        1) Go into Alt mode by pressing [F] 2 (Alt).
        2) Press the Up or Down Arrow to activate the Memory Scan.
        3) When the Scans stops on a VHF frequency on the Left Display (The 
           Main Band), Hit [F] VFO. 
        4) Press the Up or Down Arrow to activate the HyperScan.
        5) To Stop the Function, Press [F] Alt.

        Result: Faster scan rate.  (Mod is non-permanent)

        Attributed: KB2JFI ???

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Extended RCV side effect #1:

             I have found what I would consider an interesting side
        effect with my FT-470 now that I have performed the UHF
        extended receive modification.  [not sure which UHF mod this
        is, ed.]

             After I had done this mod, I found out that if I was
        scanning (in either Memory Tune mode or band-scan mode(between
        U & L)) the VHF side of the radio in the sub-band, and
        listening to an extended frequency in the UHF main band, the
        scanning would stop and revert back to whatever frequency it
        started from whenever a signal was received on the UHF side.
        (I don't know what frequency it reverts back to if you are
        scanning a VFO, but I do know that a similar thing happens).

        Attributed: v108qhu6@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David N Smernoff)

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1750Hz tone burst:

             FT470's in the UK come with the 1750 Hz tone burst option
        built in.  It is on a tiny sub card that is wedged in down the
        bottom at one side.  I bought one from the UK distributors and
        figured out how to connect it when I got back to the US.  As
        far as I can tell my mod is the same as would be done if it
        was officially installed although the service manual doesn't
        show where to connect it.  It has just 3 wires, power, ground
        and audio out. It is activated by applying power using the
        small button above the PTT so you can press both at once to
        call and then slide your thumb down to release the tone
        button.

             The board consists of a 2*color burst freq xtal and a
        74HC4060 CMOS oscillator divider giving 7.16MHz divided by
        4096 = 1748 Hz.  The chip is surface mounted so they can get
        the whole thing down to less than 0.5" square.

        Attributed: gingell%aurfs1%aurgate@mcnc.org (Mike Gingell)

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Battery latch R&R:

             To replace the battery latch simply remove the battery
        pack.  Looking at the bottom of the transceiver you will see
        the battery retainer plate.  Remove the 4 screws from each
        connor and lift the plate out.  The battery latch will come
        with it.  Part of the retainer plate is used as a spring for
        the latch.  Stick the new catch on the end of the spring and
        reinstall in reverse order.

             I have broken mine twice so far.  The rest of the radio
        seems to be pretty rugged and I have given mine a lot of
        punishment so far and it seems to have taken it well.

        Atrributed: rogerm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Roger Mitchell)

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Extended RCV side effect #1:

             After doing the software receive mod, the radio will pick
        up 2m frequencies when the display is in the 180-190MHz range.

             Also, the ARS (Automatic Repeater Shift) will turn on
        once in a while when scanning from 100 MHz to 200 MHz.

        Attributed:  plkorhon@vipunen.hut.fi (Mikko Noromaa)

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TNC wiring:

        The FT470 is wired like an Icom.  You connect the audio from
        the TNC to the tip of the mike plug through a capacitor and
        connect the PTT to the tip with a resistor.  The Icoms and
        Yaesus use a "leaky ground" to generate PTT.  The problem with
        this approach is there is a tradeoff between rapid PTT and
        audio level and response.  Typical values are .1 ufd and 2.2 k
        ohms.  The RC time constant limits TR turnaround.

        A better scheme is to use a tiny audio transformer sideways
        like so,


        TNC PTT----------))))))))))))-------------> radio tip (audio)
                         ============
        TNC AF OUT-------))))))))))))----X--------> radio sleeve (gnd)
                                         |
        TNC GND--------------------------|

        You can rip a suitable transformer out of an old transistor
        radio or buy one from Radio Shack.

        You should carefully set the audio level so you wind up with a
        3 khz deviation for your tones.  Don't exceed that level or
        many units will have trouble decoding your packets.  Make sure
        you have the power saver on the 470 turned off when you run
        packet or you'll miss the first part of every packet.  This
        can drive you nuts because everything seems to be working but
        nothing prints.

        One last note:  put some distance between the antenna and the
        radio and use shielded cables on your TNC.  Otherwise the RFI
        and RF feedback will ruin your packet operation.

        Attributed:  gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman, KE4ZV)

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DC power:

        The 2 meter only model does have a power jack under the rubber
        plug, but the 470 doesn't.  There's a place on the board for
        one, but Yaesu recomends that you use a PA-6 module instead.
        This is a module that mounts in place of the battery and
        contains regulators for running the radio and charging a
        battery connected to the bottom of the PA-6.  This is a really
        nice accessory and well worth the price.

        Attributed:  gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman, KE4ZV)

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Power Consumption:

        Here are some measurements on the Yaesu FT470.  Measurements
        made with regulated 7.2 volt supply.  Power output measured
        with Bird and appropriate slugs.

        2 Meter Transmit

                LOW POWER-  RF OUTPUT: 1 WATT   DRAIN: 400 ma
                HI  POWER-  RF OUTPUT: 3 WATTS  DRAIN: 700 ma

        70cm Transmit

                LOW POWER-  RF OUTPUT: 1 WATT     DRAIN: 550 ma
                HI  POWER-  RF OUTPUT: 2.4 WATTS  DRAIN: 800 ma

        Receive

                As used below, "standby" means squelch closed, no
                signal received.

                Note:  "PRIORITY" disables "APO", but not "SAVE"
                Note:  Scanning disables both "SAVE" and "APO"
                Note:  Open squelch disables "SAVE"

                SCAN or STANDBY, one band:   53 ma
                SCAN or STANDBY, two bands:  90 ma
                STANDBY, "SAVE", one band:   10 ma (53 ma active)
                STANDBY, "SAVE", two bands:  10 ma (90 ma active)
                "APO" does not change above.

        Audio:  50 - 150 ma

        WARNING:  The FT470 shuts down and display goes blank when
        supply voltage drops to about 4.8 volts.  BUT DRAIN CONTINUES
        AT ABOUT 10 ma.  So, there is a danger of over-discharging
        nicads.  Shut your equipment off to prevent this.

        Attributed:  WA2NQL

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Intermod Cure:

        I sent my Yaesu 470 in to Yaesu U.S.A. almost a month ago for
        them to perform the modification to cure the intermod problem
        and got it back yesterday.  They did cure the problem.  There
        is no intermod at all on one repeater that I was previously
        getting killed on.  There is also a noticeable improvement in
        the sensitivity out of band on the weather frequencies.
        Though my radio is almost 2 years old they did the work free
        of charge.  I tried to have them send me the parts to do it
        myself but I couldn't talk them into it.
                                        
        Attributed:  rogerm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Roger Mitchell)

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Intermod Cure -- Affected Lot numbers:

        There is a free factory upgrade for the FT-470 that applies to
        models from certain lot numbers.  I believe lot #19 and lower
        have terrible intermod problems.  Mods are made (supposedly)
        to IF stages etc... and sensitivity as well as selectivity are
        increased after the mod.  There may be other lots that have
        problems as well (I know lot #30 has quite a number of
        problems ie. batt saver not functioning correctly, low output
        power, mushy squelch etc...).  The lot number is usually the
        first two digits of the serial.

        Attributed: Craig Lemon VE3XCL

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More About Intermod:

        The u2AT uses a varactor tuned front end filter to reduce
        intermod.  It is able to knock out a lot of out of band
        signals while still maintaining a wideband receive capability.
        The tune voltage for the varactors is developed from the VCO
        tune line.

        There is a difference between intermod and spurious.
        Intermods are developed when two out of channel signals mix to
        produce an in channel response.  Third order intermod occurs
        when the second harmonic of one of these signals mixes with
        the other to produce an in channel response.  For example say
        there are two repeaters on 146.88 and 146.82.  These two
        frequencies will develop 3rd order products at 146.76 and
        146.94.  Tuning the receiver to either of these frequencies
        you would hear both conversations at the same time (assuming
        their signal levels were high enough to cause the intermod).

        A spurious response results when a single input signal, at a
        frequency other than the desired receive frequency, mixes with
        the first LO to produce an output at the first IF.  For
        instance suppose that I am tuned to 145.21 MHz and my first IF
        is at 21.7 MHz (as is the case in the 470).  My first LO is
        21.7 MHz above 145.21 MHz or at 166.91 MHz.  A signal at
        156.06 MHz will generate a spurious response at 21.7 MHz since
        2*166.91-2*156.06=21.7 .  Thus the second harmonic of the LO
        mixing with the second harmonic of the spur frequency ends up
        in the IF.  Just how susceptable the receiver is to this spur
        product depends upon the design of the first mixer and the
        gain and linearity of the preamplifer, as well as the ability
        of the input filter to reject 156.06 MHz.  Since the VHF front
        end is fairly broad, the filter will do little good.

        I suspect the IF frequency change in the 470 occured as a
        result of spurious problems, since the IF frequency should not
        affect the intermod dynamic range.  In fact, another ham in
        the area brought his 470 over and we checked it for its
        intermod performance and it was identical to mine, however his
        had the original 17.3 MHz VHF IF.  Thus I guess my performance
        is typical.  From email I have received since my original
        posting, it appears that this type of performance is typical
        for dual band radios made by all of the major manufacturers.

        Attributed: Jim Summers, KD7F

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Finding the IF:

        The Yaesu intermod fix changes both the first IF and second LO
        frequencies.  The following changes are made:

                                original        modified
        RF Unit - XF2001        17N15AU         21R15AU 
                - XF2002        45N15A1         47M15AU
                - L2007         4.7uH           3.3uH
                - L2008         4.7uH           3.3uH
        IF Unit - X3001         16.845MHz       21.245MHz
                - X3002         44.615MHz       47.265MHz
        IF Frequency            17.3MHz         21.7MHz
        Second LO               16.845MHz       21.245MHz

        You can hear the second LO frequency with a general coverage
        receiver in SSB mode.  As suggested by Al Rabassa, wrap the
        FT-470 with several turns of insulated wire and connect the
        wire to the antenna connector of the GC receiver.  The 2nd LO
        frequency should be received.
        
        You can also hear the first LO with a scanner.  The first LO
        will be at a frequency equal to the FT-470's displayed
        frequency plus the IF frequency.

        Another way to tell is to hook up a spectrum analyzer to the
        antenna input (Be careful not to transmit!!!) and look at the
        first LO leakage.  It is very easy to see on my radio (about
        -50 dBm).  The first LO will be offset from the receive
        frequency by the first IF frequency.  At 144 MHz the LO will
        be at 165.7 MHz.  For receive frequencies above 157 MHz, low
        side injection is used. 

        Attributed: Jim Summers, KD7F

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Opening Battery Cases:


        I`ve opened several FNB-x cases in order to replace the cell
        pack.  The procedure that I've used is very simple, but does
        require patience to prevent damage to the case:

        1.  Cut the white label with a sharp knife by following the
            case separation line. DO NOT remove the nut on the
            charging connector.

        2.  Pry the case halves apart by placing a thin wide bladed
            screwdriver into the case line on the label end.
            It may be necessary to separate the black band from
            one case half with a knife tip when it is evident that
            glue has penetrated the joint.  NOTE: The black band is
            permanently attached to one case half.

        3.  Use continuous pressure, not excessive force, to separate
            the case halves.  Concentrate the separation procedure on
            the label end of the case.  The steady pressure will allow
            the glue to cold flow and release its grip.

        4.  Yes, a frustration level will occur, but then success will
            appear as the glue gives up after a few minutes.

        5.  Make a note of where the wires attach to the battery and
            thermal switch.  Also note the pack orientation.

        6.  Connect the replacement pack into the case and attach the
            wires per your note in step 5.

        7.  Close the pack, charge the cells, attach to the radio for
            a test.

        8.  If satisfied, place a spot (1/2 inch dia) of clear RTV on
            each side of the cell pack and press the case together and
            place it under a weight for a short time until the RTV
            cures.  Because of the reduced amount of glue, the case
            will have a more flimsy feel than previous to replacement,
            but will perform like the original.

        9.  For the next replacement, the RTV will give up much easier
            than the original glue.

        Attributed: Hugh Wells, W6WTU

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UHF Transmit Extend:

        Since I always get about a dozen requests for ANY information
        on extended UHF transmit, I'll try to head them off by saying
        that I have NEVER heard of one.  Rest assured that I will add
        any such mod to this list and IMMEDIATELY repost it!

        Brian

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Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
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