AOH :: SCRM171.TXT|
Screaming In Digital 171 (Queensryche Fanzine)
SCREAMING IN DIGITAL
The On-Line Queensryche Digest : Volume 171 - 26Dec94
"Futuristic 'Rychean discussion." - Michael Wilton
"Quite entertaining to read." - Chris DeGarmo
Produced in cooperation with the Queensryche Campaign fan club.
Hosted by Internet Online Services, a division of IDT.
Edited by Dan "Shag" Birchall
FTP : ios.com, /pub/users/qryche
WWW : http://www.ios.com/~qryche/
Screaming in Digital - Editor's Note
Welcome back, everyone - I hope those of you celebrating Christmas had
an excellent time. I know I did, despite my annual cold, and although
the holiday rush didn't leave time to talk to Tina much this past
week, I plan to chat with her more this week.
Newspaper Review - Steven
Michael's Guitar Stolen - Jaime
US Tour - Sherry
Not Selling Out - Jared
Mindcrime Comic - Peter
Album Covers - Rowan
Album Covers - Jim
Promised Land Views - Charlie
Promised Land Views - Rowan
Promised Land Views - Mystii
Rage Interpretations - Michael
Rage Interpretations - Phil
Rage Interpretations - Paul
Rage Interpretations - John
Rage Interpretations - Jared
Bootleg Trades Wanted - Darrell
Suite Sister Mary Tablature Wanted - Jason
Promised Land Tablature Wanted - Rowan
Ride to German Show Wanted - Tobias
Neue Regel - News & Reviews
Newspaper Review - Steven (email@example.com)
The Chicago Tribune's review of Promised Land follows in its entirety.
Queensryche's fifth album, Promised Land, growes all the
cliches of the dreary gothic-metal genre, yet finds
significance in crisp musicianship and heartfelt yearnings.
Damaged lumbers along in positively reptilian fashion, with
singer Chris DeGarmo's cryptic groanings straddling throbbing
bass lines. On the song Bridge, the band emotes a sense of
responsibility, touching on a subject that matters most to
their core listeners, teenagers: intergenerational conflict.
Pleasant as it is, My Global Mind is fluff. But tracks like
Lady Jane - with a lithe DeGarmo piano introduction igniting
a frenzied composition - more than compensate.
Notice how the reviewer knows nothing about the band's genre, can't
even get the singer's identity correct, tunnels the band's audience to
an extreme focus, and doesn't elaborate on opinionated song
descriptions. I believe this guy to be a complete jackass who is
ignorant on all counts about the band, its influences and its medium.
Michael's Guitar Stolen - Jaime (firstname.lastname@example.org)
In an article in the February 1995 Guitar for the Practicing Musician,
I read that Michael's favorite white ESP guitar, the one on the cover
of the December 1994 Guitar magazine, was stolen en route from Europe
to the west coast. The serial number is 17663, and anyone with any
information should phone (206) 957-1318. Michael says, "We'll take
care of you."
US Tour - Sherry (email@example.com)
According to an interview with Scott in The Rock N' Roll Reporter, the
US tour will start in April.
Speak - Comments & Questions
Not Selling Out - Jared (firstname.lastname@example.org)
I am truly glad that Queensryche did not "sell out" with Promised
Land. I feel that they are trying to cater to their fans and only
their fans. This CD is in no way mainstream. This is a very deep and
introspective CD with a great sound. I, myself, have always been
interested in band who refuse to "sell out." Bands such as Fates
Warning and Dream Theater always put out albums knowing that they
probably won't get much airplay and probably won't be on MTV. These
are the bands which you can go see at a small club, get front row
without getting smashed, and then shake hands and talk with the band
after the show. True fans go to these shows, not your everyday
listener. This is generally a higher class of people, mostly
I am a musician myself and find Queensryche's sound to be one of the
most interesting and innovative around. I have spent large amounts of
time studying their style and unique way of writing music. In my
opinion, one of their best efforts to date is Rage for Order. This CD
explodes with creativity and no two songs sound alike. The CD was very
well produced and engineered as well as written by people who are some
of the best in the world.
My only complaint about Promised Land is Geoff's voice. I don't know
if I am the only one who noticed it, but although he sounds great, in
many of the songs he sounds like a heavy smoker. This is most obvious
in Someone Else. This sound can easily be overlooked, but one can't
help but think that if he keeps it up, his next album may not sound
that great. If anyone on this list knows Geoff, tell him that it is
affecting his voice and in my opinion, he needs to quit smoking now!
Mindcrime Comic - Peter (email@example.com)
I read in an earlier issue about the idea of an Operation: Mindcrime
movie - why not a comic? We've already had snippets of the Nurse and
Nikki in the Livecrime video, and the Eyes of a Stranger video off
Building Empires, so why not take the concept a little further?
Comics are often underrated in terms of emotional impact. With the
right artist, the saga of Nikki and Doctor X could be brought to new
levels. Jae Lee's unique style is one that springs to mind - any
readers of his Hellshock series should be able to picture the world
through the eyes of Nikki and Jae - harsh, unforgiving and brutal.
Other more main-stream artists would probably be able to do a good job
as well, but would probably make the series a little more commercial,
and not necessarily as gritty and realistic.
Album Covers - Rowan (firstname.lastname@example.org)
I was never really impressed with the Mindcrime cover, although
looking back I think it was the perfect design for that CD. I admire
what they tried to do with the Empire cover, but it didn't turn out so
hot. but I really liked the Promised Land one - nice colors, nice
design, and that ever present tri-ryche logo. It doesn't really tell
much about the music inside, I guess.
Album Covers - Jim (email@example.com)
I agree that the cover art for Empire was lacking, but how can anyone
say that about Promised Land? The moods that explode from the artwork
are astounding, and it's like opening the door to a new world every
time you open the CD casing. If awards were given for best packaging,
Promised Land would be a frontrunner - and you can take that to the
bank! Open the booklet and gaze at it for a few minutes... you may
even start to hear swamp noises, and your vision may be obstructed by
a fog bank moving in from the distance.
Promised Land Views - Charlie (firstname.lastname@example.org)
I pretty much think the new album is a major disappointment. The only
songs I really like are Damaged, Bridge, and Promised Land. Everything
else is, in my opinion, sub-par for Queensryche. Damaged is my
favorite song on the album; I can listen to it over and over without
getting tired of it. If they had released an EP with just those three
songs on it, it would probably be my favorite Queensryche album; as it
stands now, this is one of my least favorite Queensryche albums. I
rate the albums in this order:
1. Operation: Mindcrime
2. The Warning
3. Rage For Order
5. The EP
6. Promised Land
I have been listening to Queensryche ever since The Warning came out,
so I tend to like the music that has some metal in it. All of this
soft acoustic ballad music is okay for a song or two an album, but
they have overdone it on Promised Land. Here's my opinion on some of
9:28 AM is a complete waste of time. I am getting sick of all this
sampling musicians are putting into music nowadays. It's okay when
used sparingly, but Queensryche and Dream Theater both put too many
samples on their latest albums for my taste. The sampling and sound
bytes on Mindcrime were done to perfection, they actually helped add
to the meaning of the songs. I don't care for I Am I song too much. It
has a weird rhythm that I just can't get into. There seems to be
nothing really special about this song; nothing really stands out
other than the weird rhythm. I can't believe they released this as the
Damaged is my favorite song on the disc. They use a basic speed metal
riff for the verses which is where all the cries of Metallica ripoff
come from, but I think it is closer to a Nuclear Assault riff,
although there are many speed metal riffs that sound very similar to
this. This song has excellent vocals, tempo changes, the speed metal
riff, a heavy guitar sound, and a drum line that drives the song - all
of the things that I think make up good metal. Out of Mind is an
acoustic ballad, but not too bad actually. Bridge should have been the
first single off the album. A very good acoustic song that is very
easy to listen to for non-diehard Queensryche fans.
Promised Land sounds like heavy Pink Floyd to me. Once again the heavy
guitars are here along with a nice little keyboard riff and a very
heavy drum line and a lot of background noise and sounds that add to
the dark mood of the song. This is my second favorite song on the
album. Disconnected is, in my opinion, the worst song Queensryche has
ever done. This is not even close to a "normal" Queensryche song.
Geoff doesn't even sing, he's mostly just talking, almost rapping. The
bass line is funky, but Queensryche is not a funk band. The guitars
just don't seem to fit too well with the rest of the song. I really
can't believe that Queensryche would put out a song like this. If they
want to expand their horizons and break new ground, this is not the
way to go.
I don't listen to any David Bowie or the Beatles but Lady Jane sounds
exactly like the Beatles could have done it. If the Beatles were still
around today, maybe they would sound something like this. It's an okay
song, but not heavy enough for me. My Global Mind is a very mediocre
song. I really don't care for this one at all. Someone Else is an okay
song, but I don't think it's nearly as good as everybody claims it is.
I think if the piano line was a little more complex and the song built
up to a climax at the end, like Space-Dye Vest, it would have been
Overall, if I was grading this album based upon other Queensryche
albums, I would have to give it a D-minus. When comparing it to other
band's albums, it would probably get a C-minus. What really disgusts
me about the new album, is that after three or four years, all they
give us is 38 minutes of music. I think Queensryche reached their peak
with Mindcrime and that everything else is going to be a letdown after
that. However, after Promised Land, there's really not too much
farther down that they can go, so I expect a better album from them
next time. I am hoping for Mindcrime 2 as their next album. I think
they may have lost the commercial status they gained with Empire and
so maybe they'll give us older fans a treat and go back to a style, or
come up with, a style that is a combination of Warning, Rage, and
Mindcrime and forget all of this unplugged, ballad and funk crap.
Promised Land Views - Rowan (email@example.com)
Well, I bought Promised Land a few weeks back (it appears that it's
been released in the US for a long time, but it only just showed up at
my local CD store), and you should have seen the backflip I did when I
found the new CD on the rack! Phew. I wasn't expecting it, so I was
pretty happy. It's an awesome CD too. Not as good as Mindcrime, but I
doubt anything will ever beat that. But it does come a close second in
my opinion, followed by The Warning. I have the original Queensryche
too, but I haven't got Rage yet. I've tried to order it numerous times
in the last few years, but it's never come through. I ordered it again
today, and she said if it does arrive, it won't be for a couple of
months. Bah! Oh well, I really want it, so I can wait.
In case you hadn't picked it, Queensryche is my favorite band.
Mindcrime was the first I heard, years back now, and I remember
being totally drawn into the storyline. I loved Empire when it came
out, but Mindcrime was always my favorite. The thing about Mindcrime
and Promised Land is that there is not a bogus song on them. Each
song is a dead set classic, so I find it really hard to pick a
highlight. For the overall feel, and very original concept, I'd
probably pick Out Of Mind. What I think makes Queensryche work so well
is the way every song feels "whole" rather than just a showcase of
singing, or nice guitar work. Listening to Promised Land you can
really hear this - everything blends in together, and nothing seems
added just for the hell of it.
I heard a rumor that Promised Land is actually a continuation of the
Mindcrime story - is it true? Parts do allude to that - the asylum
for one - but overall I didn't think so. But I haven't read through
the lyrics fully yet.
Promised Land Views - Mystii (firstname.lastname@example.org)
I was promised Promised Land for Christmas. It was a long wait, but at
least I've managed to the listen to the whole thing a few times. It's
been hard for me to listen without preconceived notions due to
everyone's discussion of the the album before I got a chance to listen
to it. It was nice to read the reviews and hear the opinions - I
especially like the way the Tampa review referred to Bridge as
"voyeuristic." At the same time, when I read this, I was expecting to
hear Chris sing. But in relating personal experiences, actually
talking or singing about it is very difficult, since you're sitting
there fighting emotions so that you can still remain comprehensible,
or you're more like me and have too much pride to want to allow any
emotions to show.
I like the album as a whole. I remember seeing a part of the I am I
video and liking it. The album is definitely different, but definitely
them. Eddie Jackson just has this way of making his bass purr and I
love it! Geoff's voice is incredibly unique, and, I don't think I need
to continue. I don't have too much to say about I Am I, except that I
The guitar part in Damaged during the lines, "Mother Mary in control,
domineering stranglehold, sowing destructive seeds for the scavengers
to feed, driving the nail into my head, memory flows like a river," is
almost exactly the same as in Wherever I May Roam. I happen to like
the tune, and I happen to love early Metallica, with that classical
guitar work interspersed throughout songs. I'm not sure if I'd call it
a "ripoff" or not. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, is that a problem?
I haven't really listened to Out of Mind enough for it to strike me. I
just like the way it sounds. The same applies for a large number of
tunes on this album. The entire album seems to have a lot more
atmosphere and space then the previous ones.
Bridge is one of the two tunes that really jumps out at me. When I saw
the title, I couldn't help thinking of George Harrison's tune Badge.
Someone mentioned leaving off the "dad" in the verse. My guess is that
it's in there because the writer wants to specify who he's talking to.
This is definitely written for the writer himself; I suppose one could
call it a sort of exorcism. And I figure that this could be something
that the author would like to "get off his chest," and perhaps the
intended party will have a listen to this as well. I think the whole
issue of fathers not being responsible for their young (until it may
seem profitable) is something that needs to be addressed (I read here
that Shaq is dealing with a similar situation). I'd probably like it
just as much without it, but I can't say for sure. I know it affected
me quite a bit because I had a dream a few nights ago, and that song
was playing in the dream.
Someone Else? really hit me over the head as well. It's just so damned
ethereal and it's awesome. I think this one is a prime example of
using sound to evoke a mood. Very few songs do this successfully for
me so it's always nice to find another song that will do that. I don't
think I would want to hear it "orchestrated" any other way, but if it
can match the original or surpass it, that would be an awesome thing
There are tunes on here that are so vaguely familiar. It's the "it
reminds me of something that I can't put my finger on" treatment. But
then again I have deja-vu experiences at least three times a week, and
it gets to be really annoying. I hope this doesn't ruin it for anyone
else who was waiting to get Promised Land as a Christmas present.
After I listened to the album, I realized that I probably should have
avoided the digest until I listened to it and formed my own opinion. I
had to try really hard to be unbiased.
The Killing Words - Interpretation
Rage Interpretations - Michael (email@example.com)
I don't see anything specific in the lyrics of Gonna Get Close To You
that lends itself to a vampiric interpretation. However, the video for
the song makes it very clear that that is nonetheless a valid
interpretation. For those who haven't seen the video, it involves
Geoff stalking a very beautiful woman. The video is very gothic
looking and Geoff is made up to look vampiric. The whole thing seems
to suggest to me that Geoff is a vampire who is stalking this woman.
In the end he catches up to her, but as he looks in the mirror he sees
his reflection but not hers! He turns and her eyes are glowing, so it
would seem that perhaps it was her stalking him all along. It's
definitely a cool video.
Rage Interpretations - Phil (firstname.lastname@example.org)
In last week's issue I saw numerous articles regarding vampiric
interpretations of some of the songs from Rage for Order. I have been
listening to Rage since it was released and never came close to
interpreting the songs that way. Rage is the ultimate recording
Queensryche has done and I feel the interpretations, while original,
are way off. I think too many people have been reading Ann Rice or
Bram Stoker lately.
Rage Interpretations - Paul (email@example.com)
Though the song Gonna Get Close to You really is about stalking, it
does have a bit of a vampiric tone. It's not obvious in the song,
but it's pretty noticeable in the video. The weird thing is that the
girl that is being stalked is the vampire! In the video, there's a
shot of the mirror showing Geoff and the girl, but you can't see the
girl's reflection in the mirror! And at the end of the video, her eyes
light up. The video was played on last year's Halloween Headbanger's
Rage Interpretations - John (firstname.lastname@example.org)
I found Christopher's comments about the "true" theme of Rage For
Order extremely interesting, because once upon a time I was certain
that there was a story about computer-directed assassins lurking
underneath its pristine production. I was so convinced that I actually
tried to write a story based on my interpretation of Rage. After I'd
completed my outline, I looked at it and thought, "hey, this looks
like a cheap Mindcrime ripoff." The images I got from the album were
way too strong to be discarded, so I started over. This time I was
determined to be true to the story, and not to the source material.
I did finish the story and called it Rage. There are a lot of moments
in it that directly correspond to moments off the album. I Dream In
Infrared was a treat to write to, as was Screaming In Digital. It is
set in the London of a distant future, and does involve some vaguely
defined computer plot. There is also a scene that was inspired by The
Killing Words, but doesn't really correspond to anything in the
lyrics. If you'd like to read this little bit of 'Ryche-inspired
madness, please e-mail me, and I'll get it to you.
Rage Interpretations - Jared (email@example.com)
Recently there have been many discussions about the theme of Rage for
Order. I think the theme is a mix between vampires and a political
outcry. One possibility for an overall theme could be a vampire who
has lived through the centuries, is observing where we stand now as
far as society goes, and also touching on where we are going. He mixes
these together with thoughts of his own existence, telling of
obsession and love mixed with pain and fear. These emotions are
evident in I Dream in Infrared, Walk in the Shadows, and most
importantly London. This song seems to sum up his feelings about
himself and the things he does, in the words "Sometimes I wish I could
have taken your place my love. No I don't want to live forever." As
far as Gonna Get Close to You goes, this song was not even written by
Queensryche and in my opinion has no bearing on the theme of the CD.
Anybody Listening? - Advertisements
Bootleg Trades Wanted - Darrell (firstname.lastname@example.org)
I am interested in trading Queensryche bootlegs. So far I have an
unplugged bootleg from Queensryche, and several from other bands.
Suite Sister Mary Tablature Wanted - Jason (email@example.com)
Does anybody know where I can get a transcription - with bassline,
without the chant - of Suite Sister Mary?
Promised Land Tablature Wanted - Rowan (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Does anyone know of any tablature books for Queensryche music,
particularly for Promised Land?
Ride to German Show Wanted - Tobias (email@example.com)
Is anybody going to drive to the Neu-Isenburg concert from Bavaria on
February 22, 1995? Please e-mail me.
That's all for this week - unless Tina gives me some really
late-breaking news tomorrow.
The entire AOH site is optimized to look best in Firefox® 3 on a widescreen monitor (1440x900 or better).
Site design & layout copyright © 1986- AOH
We do not send spam. If you have received spam bearing an artofhacking.com email address, please forward it with full headers to firstname.lastname@example.org.