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Screaming in Digital, Volume 22
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_________________________________ | Screaming in Digital
________________*________________ | The Queensryche Net Digest
*** | Volume 022, 23mar92
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_Screaming in Digital______________________________Editor's Note_
For those of you who noted that it was hard to tell who
in a group had written what, I've begun placing a tab indent at
the beginning of each person's remarks, and they're in the order
their names are listed in the group. Essentially, each person
gets a paragraph.
By next week's issue, I should be in possession of the
Japanese release of the EP (thanks, Spike!) and I might even
review it in the digest.
I received the "official" lyrics to 'Last Time in Paris'
from the fan club this past week, and have revised the lyric file
on the FTP site to be correct. (Everyone who contributed guesses
at the words, you were close - my compliments on your sharp ears)
This week I found a new magazine, "High Voltage." The
premiere issue contains an interview with Chris which was done
sometime last fall. Unfortunately, the magazine is editorially
weak, but if they get a good spell-checker, and keep trying, it
could turn out okay. (For the curious, write to High Voltage,
Box 604, Somerville, NJ 08876). Including the article in this
issue would have pushed the size to more than 30 kbytes, so I
have put it up on Glia, as /pub/queensryche/text/article.hv.3-92.
_Neue Regel___________________________________________What's New_
Group 1 (J.F., Darrel, Jason) write,
I see that 'Scarborough Fair' is the B-side of the
'Anybody Listening' single. I've known about them doing it but
was surprised to find that it was recorded way back in 1986. Does
anyone know if there was a special reason that it was recorded?
I just got the CD single for 'Anybody Listening.' Since
this is the first time I have had a chance to listen to
'Scarborough Fair,' I am completely amazed by it. Geoff's voice
is more like an instrument in it than an actual voice. It is
hard for me to make out completely what the lyrics are. If
anyone has the words I would appreciate a copy of them. This
song really hit me. Probably tomorrow I will go and get the EP
and "The Warning."
I just bought the cassette single for 'Anybody
Listening?' I was surprised that the album version is on the
single. Also, like you said last issue, 'Scarborough Fair' is
the B-side. The record store I went to only had three of these
singles, but they still had 'Silent Lucidity' through 'Another
Rainy Night.' Obviously record stores do not expect big sales
from the 'Anybody Listening' single.
{If anyone does have the lyrics typed in, please
forward them to me also for inclusion in the FTP
site. If not, I can type them, I've got the old
Simon & Garfunkel version. If you think the
cassette single situation is bad, be glad you're
not into CD singles. This song is the first one
I've even seen a CD single for in stores, and
only one of 5 area stores has it. They usually
have _one_ copy out. -sh}
_Speak____________________________________________Correspondence_
cs102106%vixen.dnet@terra.oscs.montana.edu (Don) writes,
While visiting Hasting's today, I noticed the disc
version of "Operation: LIVEcrime" being sold _separate_ from the
boxed set. I never thought it would come to this. Has this
happened because all the stores haven't been able to get rid of
the boxed set? (I noticed several of both cassette and CD
formats still left on the shelves at Musicland, Sam Goody, and
Hastings). Any ideas? The price of the disc was $9.99.
{There are quite a few copies left here too. At
the time of the release, it was believed that no
part of the package would be released separately,
then a rumor surfaced that the video would be,
but this is the first I have heard of the CD
being separately available. -sh}
mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
Should Queensryche remove the umlaut from over the
'y'? The umlaut seems to group them with bands like Motley
Crue, et cetera.
{I'm sure they've got some reason for keeping
it, but it doesn't matter to me. -sh}
fairlite@geysir.lib.uwm.edu (Mark) writes,
I just got "Operation: LIVEcrime" for my birthday. I've
gotta say I'm impressed. The video is really very good, IMHO.
Although I've heard better mixing and mastering of live material,
I think it was a respectable job. Anyone have any idea why Eddie
Jackson is hardly ever shown, and when he is, he absolutely never
smiles? He's one of the best bassists I've ever seen, and
obviously gets into the music. I just wish he'd loosen up and
enjoy it a little more.
kinga@sd.cadence.com (Kinga) writes,
In the April 1992 issue of RIP magazine there is an
interview with Geoff (he was selected as the best vocalist or
something). He is asked (again) what the new album will be
like. In addition to the usual "different," Geoff says that he
wants it to be heavier and darker than Empire, and more like
"Operation: mindcrime." I also had no idea that he, his wife and
Eddie are vegetarians.
jfdintin@eos.ncsu.edu (Joe) writes,
I read that originally the song 'Last Time in Paris' was
originally part of "Empire," until the "Ford Fairlane" people
came knocking. The band first offered them 'The Thin Line,' but
they rejected it because it was too serious. They wanted a more
easy-going, fun song, hence 'Last Time in Paris.'
M.ODonnell@technology.thames.ac.uk (Mike) writes,
I just managed to pick up the "Queen of the Reich" EP.
Not bad. It sounded like Iron Maiden at first, all in all pretty
good. "The Lady Wore black" is the best song.
exusing@exu.ericsson.se (Craig) writes,
We should make the assumption that MTV VJ's _all_ suck
and if it wasn't for 'Silent Lucidity' they'd be interviewing
pop groups. That network needs to be nuked out of existence.
Why can't they create a Z-Rock video network?
Do you think Queensryche are getting tired of 'Silent
Lucidity' or what? I think their next album should be a
statement against today's pop music situation, with lyrics like
"MTV? Kill Martha, and get Rikki Rachtman as well." Call it
"Operation: Vidcrime" - "Do the world a favor working overtime."
{For those in the ever-popular catatonic state,
he doesn't really like MTV, you know? As for
a Z-Rock video network, ISDN will make that
more feasible, but that's another subject. -sh}
ju@phakt.usc.edu (Eddie) writes,
Regarding overlapping material in "Operation:
LIVEcrime," isn't it better that they released it rather than
releasing a live record of materials from "Empire?"
becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don) writes,
To add to the debate of who killed Mary, I think it's
pretty obvious that it wasn't Nikki. In the beginning of
'Electric Requiem,' he acts quite shocked to find Mary dead.
_Roads to Madness___________________________________Touring Info_
gmgettie@thama1.apgea.army.mil (Gary) writes,
I noticed that Mary (Pamela Moore) actually appeared on
stage in Wisconsin. I saw them in Baltimore in November, and she
was not there, just on the screen. I guess she couldn't make it.
{Actually, I _think_ she was only there live for
a very small number of shows, possibly even just
the ones they recorded. Although at least one
news article said she'd signed on for the tour, I
know of no other shows she sang live at. -sh}
smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve) writes,
In concert, they played 'Last Time in Paris,' and the
mumbling was just as unintelligible in concert. When he said it
to Eddie while performing, it appeared he was "hitting on" him.
I think it's some "French" guy hitting on Geoff on the tape.
Time to break out my super duper Geoff Tate mumble decoder ring.
rosmstat@durras.anu.edu.au (Michelle)
If anyone's in Canberra (Australia), a really good
local band does some great Queensryche covers as part of their
set. The band is called Harlequin, mail me for details.
_Spreading the Disease_________________________________Resources_
eric@cs.utexas.edu (Eric) writes,
Is there anyone who actually owns all of the singles,
so that perhaps it would be possible to get a tape of the
B-sides? I have some of them, but not all of them, and I just
can't afford to go around specially ordering all of this stuff,
as much as I want to. And does anyone have a bootleg that
contains _all_ of their concert from the current tour? That
was the most disappointing thing to me about the live album.
I thought that the video should have contained the entire
concert, and not just the "Operation: mindcrime" album.
rosmstat@durras.anu.edu.au (Michelle) writes,
The 'Queen of the Reich' video clip is on one of the
"Kerrang!" compilation videos, entitled "Kerrang Video
Compilation: 20 Rock Monsters," produced in 1985 by EMI. Other
tracks on the video include "Aces High" by Iron Maiden, "He Knows
You Know" by Marillion, and "Shapes of Things" by Gary Moore.
{Sounds wonderful, now where do I get it? -sh}
M.ODonnell@technology.thames.ac.uk (Mike) writes,
I heard through a friend a while ago that the band were
releasing something called "Operation: Empire," which would be a
package like that of the "Operation: LIVEcrime" box, (which costs
24 pounds in the UK), in est, Video and CD/tape does anybody know
anything about this?
gmgettie@thama1.apgea.army.mil (Gary) writes,
I _finally_ got the "Operation: LIVEcrime" video over
the weekend. Some store was offering it for 20% off the price
of $46. It don't appreciate spending that much for a video and
a useless CD. Why was the video sold this way? Also, at the
end of the video, after all the credits are done rolling, the
_whole_ video was displayed backwards at a very high speed. I'm
wondering what this is for.
{I hadn't noticed that ending of the video, does
anybody know why it's that way? -sh}
ueda@math.lsa.umich.edu (Jane) writes,
Where are these people getting these prices for
"Operation: LIVEcrime?" Here in Ann Arbor, Michigan, I bought it
at Wherehouse Records for $26.99 (the CD version, not cassette)
on November 5, the day it was released. I think they are still
selling copies of it for under $30.
jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
One of the coolest videos I ever saw was Queensryche's
'Eyes of a Stranger' on MTV. They played it for a while, then
it vanished. I'd really like to know if there's any way I can
get hold of it. Is it on that tape? Not the tour thing, but
the other tape.
{Yes, the video - along with videos for almost
all the songs on "Operation: mindcrime" - is on
"Video: mindcrime," which is, obviously, the
_studio_ video album from "Operation: mindcrime"
(as opposed to "Operation: LIVEcrime," which, of
course, is the live one.) -sh}
jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
I finally received my membership 'fan-pac' from the
Queensryche fanclub and it was worth the wait. Included were an
8 by 10 autographed photograph of the band, 8 by 10 certificate
of membership, a postcard, the Winter newsletter, stickers and
window decals, interpretations of the songs of "Operation:
mindcrime" arguing who killed Mary, and a paper with a diagram
of Scott Rockenfield's drum setup.
I was a little disappointed in the newsletter, with its
more 'inside' knowledge of what's happening, I still feel I learn
more here.
mugglestd@willow.ulowell.edu (David) writes,
I remember when "Operation: mindcrime" came out, my
local record store, Rockit Records, had promotional posters which
were about a foot tall, two feet wide and folded in the middle.
The store also had flimsy red "Operation: mindcrime" stickers,
perhaps to stick on the posters. I'll look and see if I have any
of these around.
_The Whisper__________________________________________Discussion_
Group 1 (Sir Tanon, Nikki, Tony, Gerhard Mike) write,
In 'One and Only,' February in '86 could be referring
to Michael Wilton's birthday, it's February 23.
February '86 was (I think) when Chris DeGarmo proposed
to his wife Kim, he wrote the song 'One and Only' for her.
Think Valentine's day, I can't figure out the '86
reference, other than to say it conjecturally is when Chris or
Michael met one of their wives.
The line is probably a reference to a personal love
affair, happening or starting at that time. Anybody know what
the 22 means in 'Waiting for 22?'
What is the 22 referring to in the title of 'Waiting for
22?' Oh wait! Is 22 Feb, 1986, the date Chris was married?
{It's an interesting thought - a song from one
album and an instrumental, admittedly a very
pretty one, from another album with an entirely
different direction, both referencing the same
event. -sh}
jchokey@leland.stanford.edu (Jim) writes,
In the last issue, someone pointed out that
Queensryche's music and lyrics are often self-referential. That
is to say, there are many songs in which they refer (either in
words or in melody) to other songs that they have done. Perhaps
the most obvious example of this is the end of 'Eyes of a
Stranger,' where snippets of 'Revolution Calling,' 'Operation:
mindcrime,' and 'Speak' can be heard. At the beginning of
'Eyes of a Stranger,' furthermore, there seems to be another
musical reference going on - but not to a Queensryche song! The
opening measures of 'Eyes of a Stranger' sound a _lot_ like
'Empty Spaces' from Pink Floyd's "The Wall." Many of the things
that Queensryche does, after all, are very Floydian - using
voices, sound effects, creating concept albums - and it seems to
me that the beginning of this song is indeed a "tip of the hat"
to Pink Floyd.
{The local Queensryche fans sing the opening
lyrics to 'Empty Spaces' at the beginning of
'Eyes of a Stranger.' -sh}
sjs@bae.bellcore.com (Steve) writes,
What exactly is the premise behind 'London?' I always
assumed that it was a song about a murder, but somehow there has
always been this nagging feeling that perhaps the song is about
Jack the Ripper, due to words such as "walking the streets like
long ago" and basically the reference to forgetting her face like
all the rest.
cp_pwm@cms.bristol.ac.uk (Paul) writes,
Is "Rage for Order" a concept album? In est, are all
the songs related by a common storyline throughout the album? I
can sort of make a story out of them, about a robot/android that
falls in love with a human, and so develops human emotions and
realises he is 'alive'. The track 'Screaming in Digital' could
be what happens when the android's controller realises it is
becoming too independent and willful, and pulls its plug,
effectively killing it.
Several of the tracks seem to fit this story, but others
don't, 'London' and 'Gonna Get Close to You,' for example. So
what _is_ going on with "Rage for Order?" Concept album or not?
If it is, I'd be very interested to hear other people's ideas of
the story.
mismith@nmsu.edu (Mike) writes,
The album "Rage for Order" is indeed a concept album,
although not in the traditional sense. I owned an album in
which Queensryche was interviewed, and they said "Rage for Order"
had the common thread of order - in personal life, in
relationships, and with society. The name of the album, by the
way, is "Speaking in Digital."
It was an interview of Geoff, Chris, and maybe one
other member of the band. It was taped after "Rage for Order,"
but before "Operation: mindcrime." It was the only one I had
ever seen, so I picked it up. It has been so long since I heard
it that i have forgotten most of what was said, but it was quite
interesting.
jwl@ais.org (Jessie) writes,
In issue 3, a reader said there was an emblem of a sword
through the earth that looked like the Queensryche logo from
"Rage for Order". I have that episode on tape, it was the second
show of the second season, entitled "Mirror, Mirror." That is
quite odd, I reason Queensryche got it from the show as a symbol
of violence on the earth.
{I'm going to have to interview the band sometime
just to ask all the crazy questions we've come up
with over the past issues. -sh}
_The Killing Words_________________________Babble Interpretation_
padden@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Liam) writes,
Does anyone know why they cut the "Bless me father for I
have sinned" from the start of 'The Mission' in "Operation:
LIVEcrime?" I remember reading once they were getting flak for
supposedly attacking religion and this might be some kind of
response to the pressure, though I hope not.
ju@phakt.usc.edu (Eddie) writes,
Wasn't the voicemail message included in the beginning
of the video of 'Empire?' That'd make the voicemail a part of
'Empire' not 'Another Rainy Night.'
emw107@psuvm.psu.edu (Ed) writes,
I heard a discussion about what is said in the beginning
of 'Chemical Youth,' if I remember correctly, it was from some
movie. Anyone recall what it is?
twz101@psuvm.psu.edu (Tom) writes,
In the soft instrumental part of "Chemical Youth," I
think the line "I wish there was something I could do" is spoken,
which would definitely fit in with the theme of the song.
cuthberj@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (John) writes,
The into to 'Best I Can' is "Don't worry dear, he'll
never find the gun," "Don't be scared..." and a gunshot. Then
it's into the line "A child alone in daddy's room...
ratt@max.u.washington.edu (David) writes,
In the beginning of 'The Thin Line,' I heard:
(Amp noise) "Fuck" (some echoing) "You ready?" "Let's go!"
_Writer Group Listings___________________________________________
Group 1 (Anybody Listening)
jfdintin@eos.ncsu.edu (Joe)
io11372@maine.maine.edu (Darrel)
00JJGUSKE@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Jason)
Group 2 (One and Only, Waiting for 22)
eje47614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sir Tanon)
ch9102@seqa.bristol.ac.uk (Nikki)
cctony@sun1.mcsr.olemiss.edu (Tony)
holland@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Gerhard)
mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike)
_________________________________________________________________
That's it for this week. If you see something you've got
a thought on, please reply. At the very least, you'll get group
credits. Also, please send any questions you think should be
included in the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) list. Thanks!
'Ryche on,
-Shag
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