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Screaming in Digital, Volume 22

        _________________________________ | Screaming in Digital
        ________________*________________ | The Queensryche Net Digest
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        _Screaming in Digital______________________________Editor's Note_

                For those of you who noted that it was hard to tell who 
        in a group had written what, I've begun placing a tab indent at 
        the beginning of each person's remarks, and they're in the order 
        their names are listed in the group.  Essentially, each person
        gets a paragraph.
                By next week's issue, I should be in possession of the
        Japanese release of the EP (thanks, Spike!) and I might even 
        review it in the digest.
                I received the "official" lyrics to 'Last Time in Paris'
        from the fan club this past week, and have revised the lyric file
        on the FTP site to be correct.  (Everyone who contributed guesses
        at the words, you were close - my compliments on your sharp ears)
                This week I found a new magazine, "High Voltage."  The 
        premiere issue contains an interview with Chris which was done
        sometime last fall.  Unfortunately, the magazine is editorially
        weak, but if they get a good spell-checker, and keep trying, it 
        could turn out okay.  (For the curious, write to High Voltage, 
        Box 604, Somerville, NJ 08876).  Including the article in this 
        issue would have pushed the size to more than 30 kbytes, so I 
        have put it up on Glia, as /pub/queensryche/text/article.hv.3-92.

        _Neue Regel___________________________________________What's New_

        Group 1 (J.F., Darrel, Jason) write,
                I see that 'Scarborough Fair' is the B-side of the 
        'Anybody Listening' single.  I've known about them doing it but 
        was surprised to find that it was recorded way back in 1986.  Does 
        anyone know if there was a special reason that it was recorded?
                I just got the CD single for 'Anybody Listening.'  Since 
        this is the first time I have had a chance to listen to 
        'Scarborough Fair,' I am completely amazed by it.  Geoff's voice
        is more like an instrument in it than an actual voice.  It is 
        hard for me to make out completely what the lyrics are.  If 
        anyone has the words I would appreciate a copy of them.  This 
        song really hit me.  Probably tomorrow I will go and get the EP 
        and "The Warning." 
                I just bought the cassette single for 'Anybody 
        Listening?'  I was surprised that the album version is on the 
        single.  Also, like you said last issue, 'Scarborough Fair' is 
        the B-side.  The record store I went to only had three of these 
        singles, but they still had 'Silent Lucidity' through 'Another 
        Rainy Night.'  Obviously record stores do not expect big sales 
        from the 'Anybody Listening' single.
                        {If anyone does have the lyrics typed in, please
                        forward them to me also for inclusion in the FTP
                        site.  If not, I can type them, I've got the old
                        Simon & Garfunkel version.  If you think the 
                        cassette single situation is bad, be glad you're 
                        not into CD singles.  This song is the first one 
                        I've even seen a CD single for in stores, and 
                        only one of 5 area stores has it.  They usually 
                        have _one_ copy out.  -sh}

        _Speak____________________________________________Correspondence_

        cs102106%vixen.dnet@terra.oscs.montana.edu (Don) writes,
                While visiting Hasting's today, I noticed the disc 
        version of "Operation: LIVEcrime" being sold _separate_ from the 
        boxed set.  I never thought it would come to this.  Has this 
        happened because all the stores haven't been able to get rid of 
        the boxed set?  (I noticed several of both cassette and CD 
        formats still left on the shelves at Musicland, Sam Goody, and 
        Hastings).  Any ideas?  The price of the disc was $9.99.
                        {There are quite a few copies left here too.  At
                        the time of the release, it was believed that no
                        part of the package would be released separately,
                        then a rumor surfaced that the video would be,
                        but this is the first I have heard of the CD 
                        being separately available.  -sh}

        mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
                Should Queensryche remove the umlaut from over the 
        'y'?  The umlaut seems to group them with bands like Motley
        Crue, et cetera.
                        {I'm sure they've got some reason for keeping
                        it, but it doesn't matter to me.  -sh}

        fairlite@geysir.lib.uwm.edu (Mark) writes,
                I just got "Operation: LIVEcrime" for my birthday.  I've 
        gotta say I'm impressed.  The video is really very good, IMHO. 
        Although I've heard better mixing and mastering of live material, 
        I think it was a respectable job.  Anyone have any idea why Eddie 
        Jackson is hardly ever shown, and when he is, he absolutely never 
        smiles?  He's one of the best bassists I've ever seen, and 
        obviously gets into the music.  I just wish he'd loosen up and 
        enjoy it a little more.

        kinga@sd.cadence.com (Kinga) writes,
                In the April 1992 issue of RIP magazine there is an 
        interview with Geoff (he was selected as the best vocalist or 
        something).  He is asked (again) what the new album will be 
        like.  In addition to the usual "different," Geoff says that he 
        wants it to be heavier and darker than Empire, and more like 
        "Operation: mindcrime."  I also had no idea that he, his wife and 
        Eddie are vegetarians.

        jfdintin@eos.ncsu.edu (Joe) writes,
                I read that originally the song 'Last Time in Paris' was
        originally part of "Empire," until the "Ford Fairlane" people
        came knocking.  The band first offered them 'The Thin Line,' but
        they rejected it because it was too serious.  They wanted a more
        easy-going, fun song, hence 'Last Time in Paris.' 

        M.ODonnell@technology.thames.ac.uk (Mike) writes,
                I just managed to pick up the "Queen of the Reich" EP. 
        Not bad.  It sounded like Iron Maiden at first, all in all pretty
        good.  "The Lady Wore black" is the best song.

        exusing@exu.ericsson.se (Craig) writes,
                We should make the assumption that MTV VJ's _all_ suck
        and if it wasn't for 'Silent Lucidity' they'd be interviewing
        pop groups.  That network needs to be nuked out of existence.
        Why can't they create a Z-Rock video network?
                Do you think Queensryche are getting tired of 'Silent
        Lucidity' or what?  I think their next album should be a
        statement against today's pop music situation, with lyrics like
        "MTV?  Kill Martha, and get Rikki Rachtman as well."  Call it
        "Operation: Vidcrime" - "Do the world a favor working overtime."
                        {For those in the ever-popular catatonic state,
                        he doesn't really like MTV, you know?  As for
                        a Z-Rock video network, ISDN will make that
                        more feasible, but that's another subject.  -sh}

        ju@phakt.usc.edu (Eddie) writes,
                Regarding overlapping material in "Operation: 
        LIVEcrime," isn't it better that they released it rather than 
        releasing a live record of materials from "Empire?"

        becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don) writes,
                To add to the debate of who killed Mary, I think it's 
        pretty obvious that it wasn't Nikki. In the beginning of 
        'Electric Requiem,' he acts quite shocked to find Mary dead.

        _Roads to Madness___________________________________Touring Info_

        gmgettie@thama1.apgea.army.mil (Gary) writes,
                I noticed that Mary (Pamela Moore) actually appeared on 
        stage in Wisconsin.  I saw them in Baltimore in November, and she 
        was not there, just on the screen.  I guess she couldn't make it.
                        {Actually, I _think_ she was only there live for
                        a very small number of shows, possibly even just
                        the ones they recorded.  Although at least one
                        news article said she'd signed on for the tour, I
                        know of no other shows she sang live at.  -sh}

        smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve) writes,
                In concert, they played 'Last Time in Paris,' and the 
        mumbling was just as unintelligible in concert.  When he said it 
        to Eddie while performing, it appeared he was "hitting on" him.  
        I think it's some "French" guy hitting on Geoff on the tape.  
        Time to break out my super duper Geoff Tate mumble decoder ring.

        rosmstat@durras.anu.edu.au (Michelle)
                If anyone's in Canberra (Australia), a really good
        local band does some great Queensryche covers as part of their
        set.  The band is called Harlequin, mail me for details.

        _Spreading the Disease_________________________________Resources_

        eric@cs.utexas.edu (Eric) writes,
                Is there anyone who actually owns all of the singles, 
        so that perhaps it would be possible to get a tape of the 
        B-sides?  I have some of them, but not all of them, and I just 
        can't afford to go around specially ordering all of this stuff, 
        as much as I want to.  And does anyone have a bootleg that 
        contains _all_ of their concert from the current tour?  That 
        was the most disappointing thing to me about the live album.  
        I thought that the video should have contained the entire 
        concert, and not just the "Operation: mindcrime" album.  

        rosmstat@durras.anu.edu.au (Michelle) writes,
                The 'Queen of the Reich' video clip is on one of the
        "Kerrang!" compilation videos, entitled "Kerrang Video 
        Compilation: 20 Rock Monsters," produced in 1985 by EMI.  Other
        tracks on the video include "Aces High" by Iron Maiden, "He Knows
        You Know" by Marillion, and "Shapes of Things" by Gary Moore.
                        {Sounds wonderful, now where do I get it?  -sh}

        M.ODonnell@technology.thames.ac.uk (Mike) writes,
                I heard through a friend a while ago that the band were
        releasing something called "Operation: Empire," which would be a 
        package like that of the "Operation: LIVEcrime" box, (which costs
        24 pounds in the UK), in est, Video and CD/tape does anybody know 
        anything about this?

        gmgettie@thama1.apgea.army.mil (Gary) writes,
                I _finally_ got the "Operation: LIVEcrime" video over
        the weekend.  Some store was offering it for 20% off the price
        of $46.  It don't appreciate spending that much for a video and
        a useless CD.  Why was the video sold this way?  Also, at the
        end of the video, after all the credits are done rolling, the
        _whole_ video was displayed backwards at a very high speed.  I'm
        wondering what this is for.
                        {I hadn't noticed that ending of the video, does
                        anybody know why it's that way?  -sh}

        ueda@math.lsa.umich.edu (Jane) writes,
                Where are these people getting these prices for 
        "Operation: LIVEcrime?"  Here in Ann Arbor, Michigan, I bought it 
        at Wherehouse Records for $26.99 (the CD version, not cassette) 
        on November 5, the day it was released. I think they are still 
        selling copies of it for under $30.

        jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                One of the coolest videos I ever saw was Queensryche's
        'Eyes of a Stranger' on MTV.  They played it for a while, then
        it vanished.  I'd really like to know if there's any way I can
        get hold of it.  Is it on that tape?  Not the tour thing, but
        the other tape.
                        {Yes, the video - along with videos for almost
                        all the songs on "Operation: mindcrime" - is on
                        "Video: mindcrime," which is, obviously, the
                        _studio_ video album from "Operation: mindcrime"
                        (as opposed to "Operation: LIVEcrime," which, of
                        course, is the live one.)  -sh}

        jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                I finally received my membership 'fan-pac' from the
        Queensryche fanclub and it was worth the wait.  Included were an
        8 by 10 autographed photograph of the band, 8 by 10 certificate 
        of membership, a postcard, the Winter newsletter, stickers and
        window decals, interpretations of the songs of "Operation:
        mindcrime" arguing who killed Mary, and a paper with a diagram
        of Scott Rockenfield's drum setup.
                I was a little disappointed in the newsletter, with its
        more 'inside' knowledge of what's happening, I still feel I learn
        more here.
                
        mugglestd@willow.ulowell.edu (David) writes,
                I remember when "Operation: mindcrime" came out, my 
        local record store, Rockit Records, had promotional posters which 
        were about a foot tall, two feet wide and folded in the middle.
        The store also had flimsy red "Operation: mindcrime" stickers, 
        perhaps to stick on the posters.  I'll look and see if I have any 
        of these around.

        _The Whisper__________________________________________Discussion_

        Group 1 (Sir Tanon, Nikki, Tony, Gerhard Mike) write,
                In 'One and Only,' February in '86 could be referring 
        to Michael Wilton's birthday, it's February 23.
                February '86 was (I think) when Chris DeGarmo proposed 
        to his wife Kim, he wrote the song 'One and Only' for her.
                Think Valentine's day, I can't figure out the '86 
        reference, other than to say it conjecturally is when Chris or 
        Michael met one of their wives.
                The line is probably a reference to a personal love 
        affair, happening or starting at that time.  Anybody know what 
        the 22 means in 'Waiting for 22?'
                What is the 22 referring to in the title of 'Waiting for 
        22?'  Oh wait!  Is 22 Feb, 1986, the date Chris was married?
                        {It's an interesting thought - a song from one
                        album and an instrumental, admittedly a very
                        pretty one, from another album with an entirely
                        different direction, both referencing the same
                        event.  -sh}

        jchokey@leland.stanford.edu (Jim) writes,
                In the last issue, someone pointed out that 
        Queensryche's music and lyrics are often self-referential.  That 
        is to say, there are many songs in which they refer (either in 
        words or in melody) to other songs that they have done.  Perhaps 
        the most obvious example of this is the end of 'Eyes of a 
        Stranger,' where snippets of 'Revolution Calling,' 'Operation: 
        mindcrime,' and 'Speak' can be heard.  At the beginning of
        'Eyes of a Stranger,' furthermore, there seems to be another 
        musical reference going on - but not to a Queensryche song!  The 
        opening measures of 'Eyes of a Stranger' sound a _lot_ like 
        'Empty Spaces' from Pink Floyd's "The Wall."  Many of the things 
        that Queensryche does, after all, are very Floydian - using 
        voices, sound effects, creating concept albums - and it seems to 
        me that the beginning of this song is indeed a "tip of the hat" 
        to Pink Floyd.
                        {The local Queensryche fans sing the opening
                        lyrics to 'Empty Spaces' at the beginning of
                        'Eyes of a Stranger.'  -sh}

        sjs@bae.bellcore.com (Steve) writes,
                What exactly is the premise behind 'London?' I always 
        assumed that it was a song about a murder, but somehow there has 
        always been this nagging feeling that perhaps the song is about 
        Jack the Ripper, due to words such as "walking the streets like 
        long ago" and basically the reference to forgetting her face like 
        all the rest.

        cp_pwm@cms.bristol.ac.uk (Paul) writes,
                Is "Rage for Order" a concept album?  In est, are all 
        the songs related by a common storyline throughout the album? I 
        can sort of make a story out of them, about a robot/android that 
        falls in love with a human, and so develops human emotions and 
        realises he is 'alive'.  The track 'Screaming in Digital' could 
        be what happens when the android's controller realises it is 
        becoming too independent and willful, and pulls its plug,
        effectively killing it. 
                Several of the tracks seem to fit this story, but others 
        don't, 'London' and 'Gonna Get Close to You,' for example.  So 
        what _is_ going on with "Rage for Order?"  Concept album or not? 
        If it is, I'd be very interested to hear other people's ideas of 
        the story.

        mismith@nmsu.edu (Mike) writes,
                The album "Rage for Order" is indeed a concept album, 
        although not in the traditional sense.  I owned an album in 
        which Queensryche was interviewed, and they said "Rage for Order"
        had the common thread of order - in personal life, in 
        relationships, and with society.  The name of the album, by the 
        way, is "Speaking in Digital."
                It was an interview of Geoff, Chris, and maybe one 
        other member of the band.  It was taped after "Rage for Order," 
        but before "Operation: mindcrime."  It was the only one I had 
        ever seen, so I picked it up.  It has been so long since I heard 
        it that i have forgotten most of what was said, but it was quite 
        interesting.

        jwl@ais.org (Jessie) writes,
                In issue 3, a reader said there was an emblem of a sword 
        through the earth that looked like the Queensryche logo from
        "Rage for Order".  I have that episode on tape, it was the second 
        show of the second season, entitled "Mirror, Mirror."  That is 
        quite odd, I reason Queensryche got it from the show as a symbol 
        of violence on the earth.
                        {I'm going to have to interview the band sometime
                        just to ask all the crazy questions we've come up
                        with over the past issues.  -sh}

        _The Killing Words_________________________Babble Interpretation_

        padden@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Liam) writes,
                Does anyone know why they cut the "Bless me father for I 
        have sinned" from the start of 'The Mission' in "Operation: 
        LIVEcrime?" I remember reading once they were getting flak for 
        supposedly attacking religion and this might be some kind of 
        response to the pressure, though I hope not.

        ju@phakt.usc.edu (Eddie) writes,
                Wasn't the voicemail message included in the beginning 
        of the video of 'Empire?'  That'd make the voicemail a part of 
        'Empire' not 'Another Rainy Night.'

        emw107@psuvm.psu.edu (Ed) writes,
                I heard a discussion about what is said in the beginning
        of 'Chemical Youth,' if I remember correctly, it was from some 
        movie.  Anyone recall what it is?

        twz101@psuvm.psu.edu (Tom) writes,
                In the soft instrumental part of "Chemical Youth,"  I 
        think the line "I wish there was something I could do" is spoken,
        which would definitely fit in with the theme of the song.

        cuthberj@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (John) writes,
                The into to 'Best I Can' is "Don't worry dear, he'll 
        never find the gun," "Don't be scared..." and a gunshot.  Then
        it's into the line "A child alone in daddy's room...

        ratt@max.u.washington.edu (David) writes,
                In the beginning of 'The Thin Line,' I heard:
        (Amp noise) "Fuck" (some echoing) "You ready?" "Let's go!"

        _Writer Group Listings___________________________________________

        Group 1 (Anybody Listening)     
                jfdintin@eos.ncsu.edu (Joe)
                io11372@maine.maine.edu (Darrel) 
                00JJGUSKE@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Jason) 

        Group 2 (One and Only, Waiting for 22)
                eje47614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sir Tanon)
                ch9102@seqa.bristol.ac.uk (Nikki)
                cctony@sun1.mcsr.olemiss.edu (Tony)
                holland@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Gerhard) 
                mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike)
        _________________________________________________________________

                That's it for this week.  If you see something you've got
        a thought on, please reply.  At the very least, you'll get group
        credits.  Also, please send any questions you think should be
        included in the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) list.  Thanks!

                                        'Ryche on,

                                                -Shag

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