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Screaming in Digital, Volume 19

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        _Screaming in Digital______________________________Editor's Note_

                Welcome to March.  I've finally received (and sent off)
        my fanclub membership application, and encourage anyone else out
        there who's got $15 they don't need to do the same.  The magical
        address is PO Box 70503, Bellevue, WA 98007 USA.
                This digest includes some responses to MTV's Most Wanted,
        the Grammy awards, and the second half of the 'Rocket' article,
        along with the usual contents.
                In the interest of keeping a control on the size of this
        thing, I'm going to adopt a limit on the size of issues, and
        start using a 'fifo' (first in, first out) 'stack' kind of file.
        What this basically means is that mailings, except for those
        which are time-sensitive (upcoming shows, etc) will be sent out
        in the order they are received.
        
        _Neue Regel___________________________________________What's New_

                This past week, the band's been fairly busy, at least for
        a group that are supposed to be taking a much-needed vacation.
        Tuesday night they performed at the Grammy awards - though they
        didn't take any awards home themselves - and Wednesday evening
        Geoff, Chris, and the young boy from the 'Silent Lucidity' video
        appeared live on MTV's Most Wanted.

        00jjguske@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (J) writes,
                "I was flipping through the channels Tuesday night and
        found Queensryche on the Grammies.  They were pretty good except 
        the levels were terrible.  Geoff's voice was pretty tired too. 
        They definitely need a rest from the Building Empires tour. I 
        still enjoyed the performance, especially the orchestration."

        bk985@cwns1.ins.cwru.edu (Craig) writes,
                "I was disappointed that they didn't win any awards but 
        their performance was very good despite the circumstances.  Even 
        though they had a small percentage of the orchestra, the track 
        still sounded great, and was probably the highlight in an 
        otherwise flat and boring awards show.
                "Hopefully, if they get the new album out in time, they 
        might be able to pull it off next year."

        jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                "This year's Grammies were a rip off.  They gave every
        award they could to Bonnie Raitt, and I'll tell you why: 
        sympathy!  It's a part of the music industry.  She's been so 
        boozed and drugged out that now that she came back they had to 
        "welcome" her back with awards.  Now I don't really mind it 
        because there's not much I can change about it, but when she gets 
        the award (with some other person who helped her) for "Best Rock
        Performance by Duo or Group," I lose my lunch.
                "They just had to squeeze her into that category since 
        she was in everywhere else.  And it's not that Queensryche should
        have won (although that's a large part of my annoyance), I just
        feel they took sympathy too far.
                "Queensryche not winning the "Best Rock Song" was easier
        to cope with, at least someone I can respect got the award
        (Sting, for 'Soul Cages').  Still, 'Silent Lucidity' was a rather
        big song of the year, and I feel with all the weeks it spent on 
        the top it should have won that one.  Ah well, such is life."
                        {This merely reinforces something that was said
                        on MTV recently - Queensryche used to be an
                        'underground' band.  Now, the radio stations have
                        all started playing their music, and they sell
                        millions of albums.  That makes them... a really
                        big, but still 'underground' band.  -sh}

        bk985@cwns1.ins.cwru.edu (Craig) writes,
                "For those of you that missed Queensryche on MTV's Most 
        Wanted Wednesday, February 26, don't worry, you didn't miss much.
        The same questions from another MTV employee except these were
        worded differently.  They accepted a few questions and John 
        Norris brought out the young boy (Zack was his first name) that 
        starred in the Silent Lucidity video.  Other than that, it was 
        pretty much the same thing repeated, but on another show."

        _Speak____________________________________________Correspondence_

        lpfaig@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu (Lance) writes,
                "The band I'm in is named 'The Neue Regel.'  My friend 
        is an insane Queensryche fan; he's met them about 6 times.  Once, 
        right after our band was formed, he asked Chris DeGarmo if it 
        would be ok if we used that name for our band.  Chris said that 
        it was great.  We've broken up, but we're trying to start it up
        again."

        bk985@cwns1.ins.cwru.edu (Craig) writes,
                "A friend told me that the cassette version of 
        "Operation: Mindcrime" has a different ending than the CD.  He 
        said that the cassette fades out towards the end of 'Eyes Of A 
        Stranger.'  The whole song is there except for the "I remember 
        now" part at the end.  If this is true why did they cut it, or 
        did he have a messed up copy?  I have the CD version so I 
        haven't heard the cassette."
                        {It's not unusual for a CD to have extra time
                        in comparison to a tape, sometimes filled with 
                        so-called 'bonus tracks.'  I've never heard of 
                        a CD having a longer form of a song than a
                        tape though.  -sh}

        _The Killing Words_________________________Babble Interpretation_

        tdy3835@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Timothy) writes,
                "On "Rage for Order" before 'Chemical Youth (We are
        Rebellion)' we have some great subliminals.  Turn if up real 
        loud, you'll hear "I cannot help but get angry at times"
        repeated three times."

        mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
                "_Guitar For The Practicing Musician_ put the 'Silent
        Lucidity' narration in its guitar and bass transcriptions.  I 
        forget what month it was in, but it's fairly recent."

        lissa@wheatnma.bitnet (Melissa) writes,
                "I believe the first voice in the middle of 'Last Time
        in Paris,' which sounded vaguely feminine to me, says "Geoff, 
        we need a photo before the show!" and Geoff replies, "What? 
        You gotta be kidding!" 

        mtlbrai!spoon@bobsbox.rent.com (Dave) writes,
                "I've been wondering if there is anyone besides myself
        who has noticed that "Empire" and "Operation: Mindcrime"
        contain what I feel are lyrical 'tips-of-the-hat' to the 
        preceding albums.  Cases in point:
                "In the song, 'I Don't Believe In Love,' the lyric "Now 
        I walk in shadows" appears.  Coincidence, perhaps, but it caught 
        my ear. As did example #2...
                In 'The Thin Line' off _Empire_, one can hear the lyric
        "Don't speak the word..."   Hmm.. ;)
                        {Even within individual albums, sometimes a 
                        theme will show up in more than one song.  On
                        "Rage for Order," the song 'London' contains the
                        lyrics, "Let me see you standing in the shadows
                        once again, We'll walk the streets like long
                        ago."  -sh}

        gerhart@vm1.nodak.edu (Bob) writes,
                "I've been listening to the "now says they're better"
        part of 'Silent Lucidity.'  I'm certain that the man is saying,
        "How's this, then, better?"

        mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
                "I want to know what the narration is on 'Anarchy X.'
        The "Operation: LIVEcrime" libretto says something I don't think 
        is right, but I may be wrong."

        dtg@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu (Dave) writes,
                "In the song 'The Killing Words,' there are some words 
        that are not listed in the CD jacket or the ftp site listing.  
        They're at the end of the solo (starting around 2:45 on the CD 
        counter), start "And now the..., the distance of our lives is 
        spreading...," and ends "your voice from far away is screaming," 
        and then it goes back into the chorus.
                "Can anyone figure what the whole passage says?  I 
        understand most of it but I can't get it all.  Also, why aren't 
        the words in the printed lyrics?  They seem too prominent to be 
        considered "hidden".

        pcarlson@tesla.ece.ukans.edu () writes,
                "As far as I can tell, at the beginning of "Best I Can", 
        the voice is saying, "Don't worry dear, he'll never find the 
        gun."  I'm not listening to it right now, but that's what I 
        remember hearing."

        _I Will Remember_________________________________________History_

        cs102106%vixen.dnet@terra.oscs.montana.edu (Don) writes,
        
                "Article from the January, 1992 issue of _The Rocket_, 
        a free Seattle newspaper covering the music scene there."
        
                        "Queensryche," by Jeff Gilbert
        
                Rocket:  It's been a great year for Queensryche.
                Geoff Tate:  I wouldn't know; I've been too busy to enjoy 
        it! (laughs)
                Chris DeGarmo:  As exciting as this all is, I usually 
        can't wait to get home and turn off Queensryche for a couple of 
        weeks.  But realistically, you just go into high idle at that 
        point, ready to pop it into gear again.
                Michael Wilton: It's been so long since I've been home, 
        I have to remember what my house looks like and where I live and 
        how to get there.  (laughs)
                R:  This level of success - the million-selling records, 
        the Grammy nominations and MTV awards, room service; besides lack 
        of sleep, has there been a down side?
                D:  Not really.  This is what we've all been dreaming 
        about, but it requires more energy now that what it was before.  
        And everyone's happy to offer up that energy because we really 
        don't have anything better to do.  (laughs) I still can't believe 
        we've been lucky enough to do this.
                T:  Success is kind of relative.  Queensryche were 
        successful from the beginning because we got a recording contract 
        coming from Seattle - people didn't even know where Seattle was.  
        They think we live in igloos up here and hunt whales.
                R:  It seems like a lot to constantly endure, though.
                W:  There's definitely less time for yourself.  You find 
        that as you get more popular in the public's eye, you're going to 
        have more newspaper, television and magazine people wanting to do 
        tidbits on you.  But you have to be a bit selective, because you 
        can't accommodate all of them.  You have to try and maintain 
        enough rest and sleep because you're constantly changing time 
        zones and you're subject to different diets.  We take a lot of 
        vitamins and we stay up all night and drink beer!  (laughs)  
        That's why we never get ill.
                R:  Beer and vitamins - be careful, you might start a new 
        diet trend.
                W:  (laughs)  I can't even handle the beer in the States 
        after being in Europe.  You can taste more of the richer 
        qualities.  But here, it just tastes like water!  There's more 
        kick to the beer in Europe because it's five percent; you can get 
        a serious buzz going off a few of those half-liters.
                R:  Seems like you've discovered the formula for 
        surviving success.
                W:  That, and when we get on a plane, pop a sleeping pill, 
        wake up in New York, get tired about nine o'clock, pop another 
        one; it's one of the secrets of traveling.
                R:  Is there anything you would change at this point?
                T:  We would want to have a better relationship with our 
        hometown music scene.  It would be nice to know more people in 
        more bands, be in on studio sessions with people.  We're not in 
        the space to do that yet.  It's not like Queensryche can walk in 
        to the Central Tavern and knock out a set like Soundgarden can.  
        It would be nice to be able to do that.  Queensryche have never 
        been spontaneous in that respect.
                R:  Has married life affected your music?
                T:  Yeah, it has.  I used to think I had to be on the 
        edge of chaos all of the time:  drinking myself physically into 
        the ground, abusing myself physically and mentally so I could be 
        in a state to write.  And the most successful albums I've made 
        have been ones where I haven't done that to myself.  It's sort 
        of ironic that all that time I was approaching things with a 
        wrong idea.  And my wife's really helped me to achieve that, 
        giving me space to work.  I'm very creative, emotional, and 
        moody, and she lets me be that way so I can work.  I don't know 
        what I give her, though. 
                R:  Do you ever get the chance to sit and listen to 
        music as opposed to having to make it for a living?
                T:  I don't really listen to music. But when I do, I 
        listen to classical music more than anything.  I was listening 
        to this Mozart CD, and I can't remember what piece it was, but 
        I'm hearing the vocal chorus to "Empire."   (sings chorus) And 
        I'm going, "Jesus!  So that's where I got that!"  I had no idea.  
        Of course, I put it into a completely different context.  The 
        instrument that was playing the melody was one instrument among 
        15 that were playing, but that melody is definitely in that piece.
                R:  With the studio version of Mindcrime now platinum 
        and Empire a half-liter away from triple platinum, do you try to 
        keep it in perspective since it hasn't always been this good?
                T:  Oh yeah!  (laughs) We've had a lot of ups and down, 
        but we keep a lot of this stuff to ourselves.  We don't like to 
        be public about it; we had some rough times that are hard to 
        forget.  You always carry this deep fear of ending up like that 
        again, when you're living on people's couches, eating a lot of 
        Top Ramen.  That was where we were at before we released 
        Mindcrime, and right up until we started on that tour.
                R:  You were living on people's couches?
                T:  Yeah.  Most of us weren't even paying rent.  We were 
        staying with somebody we knew, parents, friends... none of us 
        could afford to own a house.  To really have financial success, 
        you have to sell double the amount that sounds impressive to have 
        money in the bank.  People say, "Wow, you have a gold record!"  
        That looks nice on the wall, but it doesn't mean much in today's 
        economy.
                R:  Obviously you're over the financial hump now.
                T:  I can afford my own couch to sleep on.  (laughs)
                R:  It was great to see Queensryche pick up the People's 
        Choice category during the MTV Music Awards for "Silent 
        Lucidity."  The band's performance was flawless and you looked 
        very calm and comfortable despite the fact that you were playing 
        in front of a billion viewers.
                D:  Oh man, I gotta tell you; I was seriously thinking 
        through the first and last bars of the song, if I make even the 
        slightest glitch, it will be heard and witnessed by millions!  
        It was like, "Could I be more exposed?  Why don't I just take 
        off my clothes!" (laughs)
                R:  But weren't you on tour in Germany when the Music 
        Awards show came up?
                W:  Let me set it up for you.  We just did a show in 
        Germany and then left that night for Amsterdam.  We were out all 
        night until 5 am at the Bulldog Cafe, got our choice of 
        substances (laughs), and proceeded to go to some of the swankiest 
        clubs you've ever seen.  Then we got on a plane and flew 14 hours 
        to Los Angeles, totally lost in some weird time zone.  We did a 
        day of rehearsal at Joe's Garage [Frank Zappa's studio].  We had 
        a whole orchestra - they just looked at the music scores which we 
        had sent down and we did five or six run-throughs.  It took them 
        a few times to get Michael Kamen's orchestration manuscript to 
        sound like it does on the record, though. (laughs)  At that 
        point, everything was sounding pretty good.  Then the next day, 
        we had two run-throughs at the Los Angeles Amphitheatre, and we 
        just went up and did it.  Everything worked great.  After the 
        performance, we stayed around and got our award and were brisked 
        off to the press tents, which was a barrage of photographer's 
        flashes in our faces.  We did some interviews and were then 
        whisked to these limos at high speed to the NBC office building 
        where they had two helicopters waiting which took us to the 
        airport where they held the plane.  Then we were off to France 
        and to Frankfurt for a show the next day.  We were just toast!
                R:  Empire is still on the charts, and yet in the middle 
        of your massively successful tour, you released a live album and 
        video of Operation: Mindcrime in its entirety, even though it's 
        only been out a few short years.
                D:  The biggest reason for releasing the live version of 
        Mindcrime is that we're not going to be playing it like this 
        again.  We thought we'd capture it while it went down like this- 
        the actual concert and live audio.  Plus, we've not released 
        anything live; there's not an official live recording of 
        Queensryche.  There's an obvious demand for live Queensryche.  
        We figured it was time we did it and did it right.  It's a nice 
        clear mix of everything, not like some of the bootlegs that are 
        floating around.
                W:  We are getting kind of pissed off at all the shitty 
        bootlegs out there.  It's amazing - these plants can pop 
        bootlegs out and the production of the CDs looks just as good as 
        the real ones:  great photos, the typesetting is really nice... 
        but then you listen to them and go, "Ugh!" (laughs)  This 
        happens to us a lot, especially in other countries.  You really 
        don't have that much control over the security procedures at 
        these shows.  In Japan, we did a show, and within 48 hours there 
        was a bootleg out on us.
                R:  Queensryche spent a lot of time on tour when the 
        Seattle music scene was beginning to explode nationally.  In a 
        lot of ways, you were directly responsible for it.  Yet, 
        Queensryche are almost always left out of articles regaling the 
        "Seattle sound."  Does that bother you?
                T:  I've been reading tons of articles about the 
        "Seattle sound," and they all mention bands like Soundgarden, 
        Alice in Chains, Mudhoney, Nirvana - every band from Seattle 
        except Queensryche.  I've learned to laugh at it, but it would 
        be nice if people recognized our contributions as well.
                R:  The video for "Jet City Woman" has all those scenes 
        of Seattle playing in the background.
                D:  It's great, isn't it?  That's the actual footage we 
        use on stage during that song.  It's so cool to be playing in 
        front of thousands of people and turn around and look up and 
        see pictures of your home.  I really get off on that.

        _Anybody Listening?__________________________________Classifieds_

        Wanted: Queensryche bootlegs
        Reply to: bdolson@cica.es (Brian)

        _The Whisper__________________________________________Discussion_

        eje47614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sir Tanon) writes,
                "Rage for Order" was not a concept album and there is 
        no story being presented.  It's just a bunch of songs.  In the
        Queensryche issue of 'Rock n' Roll Comics,' the band says that 
        after "Operation: mindcrime," they wanted to go back to just a 
        bunch of songs like they did on "Rage for Order."  "Operation: 
        mindcrime" is their only concept album."

        jl10s44@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                "Who killed Mary?  I gathered from everything I saw and
        heard that Nikki killed Mary, not intentionally, Dr. X made him
        do it."

        mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
                "At the end of the second 'I Don't Believe in Love' 
        video, the last image on the screen says "suicide," so that 
        should answer any questions about Mary's death."

        lissa@wheatnma.bitnet (Melissa) writes,
                "Inside the libretto of "Operation: LIVEcrime," the
        words "She hated him.  She hated men.  She hated life," were
        printed.  I took that to mean that she killed herself."

        tjs107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes,
                "Eyes Of A Stranger" certainly shows Nikki pretty wacked 
        out.  I think this is because he loved her, not because he is 
        crazy because he killed her or she killed herself.
                "When he writes "love" and then crosses it out, it's 
        because he wants to get over the pain since she is gone.  In est, 
        I don't think Nikki killed her.  But I guess we'll never know."

        dominimj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu () writes,
                "In response to who killed Mary, I offer part of the 
        LIVEcrime booklet to back up my opinion that she committed 
        suicide.  It reads, "After Nikki leaves, Mary is plagued by
        the vision of Nikki turning into Father William.  As they
        made love on the altar, the memories came flooding back.
        Years filled with men who had used her, degraded and beaten 
        her, and driven their hatred and coldness into her heart.  
        Once, she thought Nikki was her hope.  But now he seemed like
        all the rest.  She hated him... she hated men... she hated
        life." 
                "I guess you can still argue who killed Mary."

        tjs107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes,
                "The first couple times I heard Operation: Mindcrime, 
        I thought it was really obvious that Dr. X was supposed to have 
        killed Mary.  After reading the newsletters, I don't know.  A 
        lot of people have come up with some pretty convincing arguments 
        otherwise.  I _still_ say Dr. X, though.  I know she is holding 
        a knife in the video, but I assumed that this was for protection 
        from Dr. X after Nikki told her about him (I assume he told her
        about him and why he was there after he didn't kill her)."

        _Spreading the Disease_________________________________Resources_

        ytsanyd@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David) writes,
                "Well I now own the Holland import of 'Another Rainy 
        Night' on CD.  Nothing too special.  It contains: 
                'Another Rainy Night (Without You)'
                'Last Time In Paris'
                'Suite Sister Mary'
                'Eyes Of A Stranger'
                "The running time is 27:39.  The cover has a candle on 
        it and is a faded brownish color with a tinge of green.  The 
        catalog numbers are 20-4611-2, CDP 560, PM 515, and UPC 
        066620-461121.
                "The versions of 'Eyes of a Stranger' and 'Suite Sister
        Mary' are from "Operation: LIVEcrime," I guess this means they
        have released or are releasing "Operation: LIVEcrime" over in
        Europe."

        mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
                "I have the CD-5 of "Anybody Listening", and it contains 
        both versions (the album version and the radio edit)."

        ch9102@seqa.bristol.ac.uk (Nikki) writes,
                "The Scarborough Fair cover was also on the version 
        of Empire (the single) released in the U.K."

        ewk102@psuvm.psu.edu (Eric) writes,
                "Watch Headbanger's Ball.  I've seen them pull the
        "Queen of the Reich" video out of the vault once.  Maybe it can
        happen again."

        lissa@wheatnma.bitnet (Melissa) writes,
                "I saw the video for 'Queen of the Reich' on 
        Headbanger's Ball on the 25th of January, I think.  That's the
        only time I've ever seen it, though."

        ch9102@seqa.bristol.ac.uk (Nikki) writes,
                "Do you know whether 'Anybody Listening' is being 
        released worldwide?  I've not heard anything about it over 
        here."

        _________________________________________________________________

                Have a good week, and if anyone out there knows a good
        remedy for a cold, let me know. :)  See you next Monday!

                                                -Shag

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