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_Screaming in Digital______________________________Editor's Note_
Welcome to March. I've finally received (and sent off)
my fanclub membership application, and encourage anyone else out
there who's got $15 they don't need to do the same. The magical
address is PO Box 70503, Bellevue, WA 98007 USA.
This digest includes some responses to MTV's Most Wanted,
the Grammy awards, and the second half of the 'Rocket' article,
along with the usual contents.
In the interest of keeping a control on the size of this
thing, I'm going to adopt a limit on the size of issues, and
start using a 'fifo' (first in, first out) 'stack' kind of file.
What this basically means is that mailings, except for those
which are time-sensitive (upcoming shows, etc) will be sent out
in the order they are received.
_Neue Regel___________________________________________What's New_
This past week, the band's been fairly busy, at least for
a group that are supposed to be taking a much-needed vacation.
Tuesday night they performed at the Grammy awards - though they
didn't take any awards home themselves - and Wednesday evening
Geoff, Chris, and the young boy from the 'Silent Lucidity' video
appeared live on MTV's Most Wanted.
00jjguske@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (J) writes,
"I was flipping through the channels Tuesday night and
found Queensryche on the Grammies. They were pretty good except
the levels were terrible. Geoff's voice was pretty tired too.
They definitely need a rest from the Building Empires tour. I
still enjoyed the performance, especially the orchestration."
bk985@cwns1.ins.cwru.edu (Craig) writes,
"I was disappointed that they didn't win any awards but
their performance was very good despite the circumstances. Even
though they had a small percentage of the orchestra, the track
still sounded great, and was probably the highlight in an
otherwise flat and boring awards show.
"Hopefully, if they get the new album out in time, they
might be able to pull it off next year."
jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
"This year's Grammies were a rip off. They gave every
award they could to Bonnie Raitt, and I'll tell you why:
sympathy! It's a part of the music industry. She's been so
boozed and drugged out that now that she came back they had to
"welcome" her back with awards. Now I don't really mind it
because there's not much I can change about it, but when she gets
the award (with some other person who helped her) for "Best Rock
Performance by Duo or Group," I lose my lunch.
"They just had to squeeze her into that category since
she was in everywhere else. And it's not that Queensryche should
have won (although that's a large part of my annoyance), I just
feel they took sympathy too far.
"Queensryche not winning the "Best Rock Song" was easier
to cope with, at least someone I can respect got the award
(Sting, for 'Soul Cages'). Still, 'Silent Lucidity' was a rather
big song of the year, and I feel with all the weeks it spent on
the top it should have won that one. Ah well, such is life."
{This merely reinforces something that was said
on MTV recently - Queensryche used to be an
'underground' band. Now, the radio stations have
all started playing their music, and they sell
millions of albums. That makes them... a really
big, but still 'underground' band. -sh}
bk985@cwns1.ins.cwru.edu (Craig) writes,
"For those of you that missed Queensryche on MTV's Most
Wanted Wednesday, February 26, don't worry, you didn't miss much.
The same questions from another MTV employee except these were
worded differently. They accepted a few questions and John
Norris brought out the young boy (Zack was his first name) that
starred in the Silent Lucidity video. Other than that, it was
pretty much the same thing repeated, but on another show."
_Speak____________________________________________Correspondence_
lpfaig@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu (Lance) writes,
"The band I'm in is named 'The Neue Regel.' My friend
is an insane Queensryche fan; he's met them about 6 times. Once,
right after our band was formed, he asked Chris DeGarmo if it
would be ok if we used that name for our band. Chris said that
it was great. We've broken up, but we're trying to start it up
again."
bk985@cwns1.ins.cwru.edu (Craig) writes,
"A friend told me that the cassette version of
"Operation: Mindcrime" has a different ending than the CD. He
said that the cassette fades out towards the end of 'Eyes Of A
Stranger.' The whole song is there except for the "I remember
now" part at the end. If this is true why did they cut it, or
did he have a messed up copy? I have the CD version so I
haven't heard the cassette."
{It's not unusual for a CD to have extra time
in comparison to a tape, sometimes filled with
so-called 'bonus tracks.' I've never heard of
a CD having a longer form of a song than a
tape though. -sh}
_The Killing Words_________________________Babble Interpretation_
tdy3835@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Timothy) writes,
"On "Rage for Order" before 'Chemical Youth (We are
Rebellion)' we have some great subliminals. Turn if up real
loud, you'll hear "I cannot help but get angry at times"
repeated three times."
mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
"_Guitar For The Practicing Musician_ put the 'Silent
Lucidity' narration in its guitar and bass transcriptions. I
forget what month it was in, but it's fairly recent."
lissa@wheatnma.bitnet (Melissa) writes,
"I believe the first voice in the middle of 'Last Time
in Paris,' which sounded vaguely feminine to me, says "Geoff,
we need a photo before the show!" and Geoff replies, "What?
You gotta be kidding!"
mtlbrai!spoon@bobsbox.rent.com (Dave) writes,
"I've been wondering if there is anyone besides myself
who has noticed that "Empire" and "Operation: Mindcrime"
contain what I feel are lyrical 'tips-of-the-hat' to the
preceding albums. Cases in point:
"In the song, 'I Don't Believe In Love,' the lyric "Now
I walk in shadows" appears. Coincidence, perhaps, but it caught
my ear. As did example #2...
In 'The Thin Line' off _Empire_, one can hear the lyric
"Don't speak the word..." Hmm.. ;)
{Even within individual albums, sometimes a
theme will show up in more than one song. On
"Rage for Order," the song 'London' contains the
lyrics, "Let me see you standing in the shadows
once again, We'll walk the streets like long
ago." -sh}
gerhart@vm1.nodak.edu (Bob) writes,
"I've been listening to the "now says they're better"
part of 'Silent Lucidity.' I'm certain that the man is saying,
"How's this, then, better?"
mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
"I want to know what the narration is on 'Anarchy X.'
The "Operation: LIVEcrime" libretto says something I don't think
is right, but I may be wrong."
dtg@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu (Dave) writes,
"In the song 'The Killing Words,' there are some words
that are not listed in the CD jacket or the ftp site listing.
They're at the end of the solo (starting around 2:45 on the CD
counter), start "And now the..., the distance of our lives is
spreading...," and ends "your voice from far away is screaming,"
and then it goes back into the chorus.
"Can anyone figure what the whole passage says? I
understand most of it but I can't get it all. Also, why aren't
the words in the printed lyrics? They seem too prominent to be
considered "hidden".
pcarlson@tesla.ece.ukans.edu () writes,
"As far as I can tell, at the beginning of "Best I Can",
the voice is saying, "Don't worry dear, he'll never find the
gun." I'm not listening to it right now, but that's what I
remember hearing."
_I Will Remember_________________________________________History_
cs102106%vixen.dnet@terra.oscs.montana.edu (Don) writes,
"Article from the January, 1992 issue of _The Rocket_,
a free Seattle newspaper covering the music scene there."
"Queensryche," by Jeff Gilbert
Rocket: It's been a great year for Queensryche.
Geoff Tate: I wouldn't know; I've been too busy to enjoy
it! (laughs)
Chris DeGarmo: As exciting as this all is, I usually
can't wait to get home and turn off Queensryche for a couple of
weeks. But realistically, you just go into high idle at that
point, ready to pop it into gear again.
Michael Wilton: It's been so long since I've been home,
I have to remember what my house looks like and where I live and
how to get there. (laughs)
R: This level of success - the million-selling records,
the Grammy nominations and MTV awards, room service; besides lack
of sleep, has there been a down side?
D: Not really. This is what we've all been dreaming
about, but it requires more energy now that what it was before.
And everyone's happy to offer up that energy because we really
don't have anything better to do. (laughs) I still can't believe
we've been lucky enough to do this.
T: Success is kind of relative. Queensryche were
successful from the beginning because we got a recording contract
coming from Seattle - people didn't even know where Seattle was.
They think we live in igloos up here and hunt whales.
R: It seems like a lot to constantly endure, though.
W: There's definitely less time for yourself. You find
that as you get more popular in the public's eye, you're going to
have more newspaper, television and magazine people wanting to do
tidbits on you. But you have to be a bit selective, because you
can't accommodate all of them. You have to try and maintain
enough rest and sleep because you're constantly changing time
zones and you're subject to different diets. We take a lot of
vitamins and we stay up all night and drink beer! (laughs)
That's why we never get ill.
R: Beer and vitamins - be careful, you might start a new
diet trend.
W: (laughs) I can't even handle the beer in the States
after being in Europe. You can taste more of the richer
qualities. But here, it just tastes like water! There's more
kick to the beer in Europe because it's five percent; you can get
a serious buzz going off a few of those half-liters.
R: Seems like you've discovered the formula for
surviving success.
W: That, and when we get on a plane, pop a sleeping pill,
wake up in New York, get tired about nine o'clock, pop another
one; it's one of the secrets of traveling.
R: Is there anything you would change at this point?
T: We would want to have a better relationship with our
hometown music scene. It would be nice to know more people in
more bands, be in on studio sessions with people. We're not in
the space to do that yet. It's not like Queensryche can walk in
to the Central Tavern and knock out a set like Soundgarden can.
It would be nice to be able to do that. Queensryche have never
been spontaneous in that respect.
R: Has married life affected your music?
T: Yeah, it has. I used to think I had to be on the
edge of chaos all of the time: drinking myself physically into
the ground, abusing myself physically and mentally so I could be
in a state to write. And the most successful albums I've made
have been ones where I haven't done that to myself. It's sort
of ironic that all that time I was approaching things with a
wrong idea. And my wife's really helped me to achieve that,
giving me space to work. I'm very creative, emotional, and
moody, and she lets me be that way so I can work. I don't know
what I give her, though.
R: Do you ever get the chance to sit and listen to
music as opposed to having to make it for a living?
T: I don't really listen to music. But when I do, I
listen to classical music more than anything. I was listening
to this Mozart CD, and I can't remember what piece it was, but
I'm hearing the vocal chorus to "Empire." (sings chorus) And
I'm going, "Jesus! So that's where I got that!" I had no idea.
Of course, I put it into a completely different context. The
instrument that was playing the melody was one instrument among
15 that were playing, but that melody is definitely in that piece.
R: With the studio version of Mindcrime now platinum
and Empire a half-liter away from triple platinum, do you try to
keep it in perspective since it hasn't always been this good?
T: Oh yeah! (laughs) We've had a lot of ups and down,
but we keep a lot of this stuff to ourselves. We don't like to
be public about it; we had some rough times that are hard to
forget. You always carry this deep fear of ending up like that
again, when you're living on people's couches, eating a lot of
Top Ramen. That was where we were at before we released
Mindcrime, and right up until we started on that tour.
R: You were living on people's couches?
T: Yeah. Most of us weren't even paying rent. We were
staying with somebody we knew, parents, friends... none of us
could afford to own a house. To really have financial success,
you have to sell double the amount that sounds impressive to have
money in the bank. People say, "Wow, you have a gold record!"
That looks nice on the wall, but it doesn't mean much in today's
economy.
R: Obviously you're over the financial hump now.
T: I can afford my own couch to sleep on. (laughs)
R: It was great to see Queensryche pick up the People's
Choice category during the MTV Music Awards for "Silent
Lucidity." The band's performance was flawless and you looked
very calm and comfortable despite the fact that you were playing
in front of a billion viewers.
D: Oh man, I gotta tell you; I was seriously thinking
through the first and last bars of the song, if I make even the
slightest glitch, it will be heard and witnessed by millions!
It was like, "Could I be more exposed? Why don't I just take
off my clothes!" (laughs)
R: But weren't you on tour in Germany when the Music
Awards show came up?
W: Let me set it up for you. We just did a show in
Germany and then left that night for Amsterdam. We were out all
night until 5 am at the Bulldog Cafe, got our choice of
substances (laughs), and proceeded to go to some of the swankiest
clubs you've ever seen. Then we got on a plane and flew 14 hours
to Los Angeles, totally lost in some weird time zone. We did a
day of rehearsal at Joe's Garage [Frank Zappa's studio]. We had
a whole orchestra - they just looked at the music scores which we
had sent down and we did five or six run-throughs. It took them
a few times to get Michael Kamen's orchestration manuscript to
sound like it does on the record, though. (laughs) At that
point, everything was sounding pretty good. Then the next day,
we had two run-throughs at the Los Angeles Amphitheatre, and we
just went up and did it. Everything worked great. After the
performance, we stayed around and got our award and were brisked
off to the press tents, which was a barrage of photographer's
flashes in our faces. We did some interviews and were then
whisked to these limos at high speed to the NBC office building
where they had two helicopters waiting which took us to the
airport where they held the plane. Then we were off to France
and to Frankfurt for a show the next day. We were just toast!
R: Empire is still on the charts, and yet in the middle
of your massively successful tour, you released a live album and
video of Operation: Mindcrime in its entirety, even though it's
only been out a few short years.
D: The biggest reason for releasing the live version of
Mindcrime is that we're not going to be playing it like this
again. We thought we'd capture it while it went down like this-
the actual concert and live audio. Plus, we've not released
anything live; there's not an official live recording of
Queensryche. There's an obvious demand for live Queensryche.
We figured it was time we did it and did it right. It's a nice
clear mix of everything, not like some of the bootlegs that are
floating around.
W: We are getting kind of pissed off at all the shitty
bootlegs out there. It's amazing - these plants can pop
bootlegs out and the production of the CDs looks just as good as
the real ones: great photos, the typesetting is really nice...
but then you listen to them and go, "Ugh!" (laughs) This
happens to us a lot, especially in other countries. You really
don't have that much control over the security procedures at
these shows. In Japan, we did a show, and within 48 hours there
was a bootleg out on us.
R: Queensryche spent a lot of time on tour when the
Seattle music scene was beginning to explode nationally. In a
lot of ways, you were directly responsible for it. Yet,
Queensryche are almost always left out of articles regaling the
"Seattle sound." Does that bother you?
T: I've been reading tons of articles about the
"Seattle sound," and they all mention bands like Soundgarden,
Alice in Chains, Mudhoney, Nirvana - every band from Seattle
except Queensryche. I've learned to laugh at it, but it would
be nice if people recognized our contributions as well.
R: The video for "Jet City Woman" has all those scenes
of Seattle playing in the background.
D: It's great, isn't it? That's the actual footage we
use on stage during that song. It's so cool to be playing in
front of thousands of people and turn around and look up and
see pictures of your home. I really get off on that.
_Anybody Listening?__________________________________Classifieds_
Wanted: Queensryche bootlegs
Reply to: bdolson@cica.es (Brian)
_The Whisper__________________________________________Discussion_
eje47614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sir Tanon) writes,
"Rage for Order" was not a concept album and there is
no story being presented. It's just a bunch of songs. In the
Queensryche issue of 'Rock n' Roll Comics,' the band says that
after "Operation: mindcrime," they wanted to go back to just a
bunch of songs like they did on "Rage for Order." "Operation:
mindcrime" is their only concept album."
jl10s44@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
"Who killed Mary? I gathered from everything I saw and
heard that Nikki killed Mary, not intentionally, Dr. X made him
do it."
mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
"At the end of the second 'I Don't Believe in Love'
video, the last image on the screen says "suicide," so that
should answer any questions about Mary's death."
lissa@wheatnma.bitnet (Melissa) writes,
"Inside the libretto of "Operation: LIVEcrime," the
words "She hated him. She hated men. She hated life," were
printed. I took that to mean that she killed herself."
tjs107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes,
"Eyes Of A Stranger" certainly shows Nikki pretty wacked
out. I think this is because he loved her, not because he is
crazy because he killed her or she killed herself.
"When he writes "love" and then crosses it out, it's
because he wants to get over the pain since she is gone. In est,
I don't think Nikki killed her. But I guess we'll never know."
dominimj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu () writes,
"In response to who killed Mary, I offer part of the
LIVEcrime booklet to back up my opinion that she committed
suicide. It reads, "After Nikki leaves, Mary is plagued by
the vision of Nikki turning into Father William. As they
made love on the altar, the memories came flooding back.
Years filled with men who had used her, degraded and beaten
her, and driven their hatred and coldness into her heart.
Once, she thought Nikki was her hope. But now he seemed like
all the rest. She hated him... she hated men... she hated
life."
"I guess you can still argue who killed Mary."
tjs107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes,
"The first couple times I heard Operation: Mindcrime,
I thought it was really obvious that Dr. X was supposed to have
killed Mary. After reading the newsletters, I don't know. A
lot of people have come up with some pretty convincing arguments
otherwise. I _still_ say Dr. X, though. I know she is holding
a knife in the video, but I assumed that this was for protection
from Dr. X after Nikki told her about him (I assume he told her
about him and why he was there after he didn't kill her)."
_Spreading the Disease_________________________________Resources_
ytsanyd@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David) writes,
"Well I now own the Holland import of 'Another Rainy
Night' on CD. Nothing too special. It contains:
'Another Rainy Night (Without You)'
'Last Time In Paris'
'Suite Sister Mary'
'Eyes Of A Stranger'
"The running time is 27:39. The cover has a candle on
it and is a faded brownish color with a tinge of green. The
catalog numbers are 20-4611-2, CDP 560, PM 515, and UPC
066620-461121.
"The versions of 'Eyes of a Stranger' and 'Suite Sister
Mary' are from "Operation: LIVEcrime," I guess this means they
have released or are releasing "Operation: LIVEcrime" over in
Europe."
mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
"I have the CD-5 of "Anybody Listening", and it contains
both versions (the album version and the radio edit)."
ch9102@seqa.bristol.ac.uk (Nikki) writes,
"The Scarborough Fair cover was also on the version
of Empire (the single) released in the U.K."
ewk102@psuvm.psu.edu (Eric) writes,
"Watch Headbanger's Ball. I've seen them pull the
"Queen of the Reich" video out of the vault once. Maybe it can
happen again."
lissa@wheatnma.bitnet (Melissa) writes,
"I saw the video for 'Queen of the Reich' on
Headbanger's Ball on the 25th of January, I think. That's the
only time I've ever seen it, though."
ch9102@seqa.bristol.ac.uk (Nikki) writes,
"Do you know whether 'Anybody Listening' is being
released worldwide? I've not heard anything about it over
here."
_________________________________________________________________
Have a good week, and if anyone out there knows a good
remedy for a cold, let me know. :) See you next Monday!
-Shag
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