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The National Midnight Star, Number 1107
Friday, 30 Jun 1995
Today's Topics:
Post for The National Midnight Star
My visit to The Oribt Room
sowing seeds
Re: 06/29/95 - The National Midnight Star #1106
more setlist stuff...
Counterparts Time Test
Re: Flashback pop quiz
High School Rush
Peart's drumming
News.
Get Real, Dude
RE:Question for highschool Rush fans!!l
what is Archives?
getting a life?
RE: 06/29/95 - The National Midnight Star #1106
Interesting Tidbits--Questions Answered
Rush raytrace and homepage
Re:Rush raytrace and homepage
Re: Jon Tanguy
notes
To speak of many things...
High School Popularity and More....
Quick Correction
Thoughts
Re: 06/29/95 - The National Midnight Star #1106
Emmett (II) too.
Other bands, anthem video, misc.
lyrics
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From: WILDSA@cougar.barton.cc.ks.us
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 9:42:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Post for The National Midnight Star
Greetings my fellow Rushaholics:
I just received my first mailing and wow! - what a collection of ideas and
personalities. I didn't read one posting where the author didn't have something
worthwhile and intelligent to offer. This proves my point, Rush fans are very
articulate and intellectual. Perhaps it's the years of listening to that awe
inspiring music that made us that way!!!!
Anyway, a couple of comments:
Randbass (randbass@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) had posted an article comparing NP to
several other drummers (i.e. Peter Erskine, Steve Gadd, etc.) and how Neil just
didn't stack up to their all-around talent. First of all, let's include Steve
Smith in that list as well. I mean this guy knows his stuff. And hey, randbass
knows his stuff too. He's obviously a drummer. My opinion on NP has changed
somewhat over the years. As a young drummer, I believed no one could top him
after hearing ESL, MP, 2112 and all the other classics. When I discovered NP, I
discovered drumming. Lets put this in context. the Erskines, Gadds, Smiths -
they all have extensive academic backgrounds in percussion. It's my
understading Neil didn't. In fact, just after high school he spent a year in
London trying to make it in the music business there. I agree, NP probably
wouldn't be too well suited to sit in with a fusion band like these other
cats have done. But lets face it, no one and I mean NO ONE could have brought
to Rush what NP did. And as far as progessive rock drumming goes - he will
always be the master in my opinion. He was not tied down by the chains of
academics and the way things are "supposed" to be played. NP wrote his own
style, much like Eddie Van Halen did.
Also, j_heffner mentioned the Dream Theatre comparison. It's my understanding
that DT was more influenced by Queensryche than Rush. However, several of the
Ryche boys were die-hard Rush fans including Scott Rockenfield - hence the
almost two generations of Rush-inspired music. Sorry to hear you didn't like
"Awake" - but glad you're into DT. Most Rush fans should be. The progessive
rock style Rush worked so hard to forge is still progessing - let's not
forget that!!
email anytime (Alan Wilds) wildsa@cougar.barton.cc.ks.us
"Each of us, a cell of awareness imperfect and incomplete. Genetic blends, with
uncertain ends on a fortune that's far too fleet."
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From: Kenneth Martig <martig@zgi.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 07:56:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: My visit to The Oribt Room
Hello all,
You will have to pardon me in advance for the length of this post, but I
think it is worth reading. After reading so many "Rush sighting" stories
that tell of hearing their music on TV, I thought I would give you all my
Rush sighting.
I am from Seattle, and have never travelled very far East until January
when I went to Toronto for some router configuration training. I though
while I was their I would visit some Rush spots. I had read about The
Orbit Room in the NMS a few weeks earlier so I decided to drag some
people there for dinner so that I could say that I had been there.
We arrived at around 8:30 and got a couple of tables (they were small).
The maximum seating for the place can't be more than 150. There was a
bar area with about 4 tall tables and seats against the bar and about 5
small two or three person tables along each wall by the "stage" area.
Past the stage down the hall were the coat room, bathrooms and kitchen.
We ordered dinner ( the food is fantastic ) and beers and asked when the
band would be coming on. The waitress said "About 9:45 and you should
really stick around. Alex Lifeson will be sitting in with them
tonight." I nearly creamed my shorts right there. We were supposed to
meet someone at the Hard Rock cafe downtown, so I asked the others if
they would mind staying. They said they would be happy to stay if I
would buy them lottery tickets because I must have some lucky thing
happening. I was driving anyways, so it wasn't like they had a choice.
About an hour before the gig Alex showed up and got a drink from the bar
and mingled with friends. It took me a while to get up the guts to
go up and say hi. Finally I went and got his autograph. I had him sign
a Canadian 20 dollar bill, hey it is only worth 13 bucks here. He said "I
should keep this. It's the largest thing anyone has ever given me to
sign." I shook his hand and said "I just wanted to thank you for the
music you have given me. It has always spoken to me during good times and
bad times." He said thanks and I was back to my table to catch my
breath.
The music started a bit later. They played a bunch of old R&B tunes.
Booker T. and the MG's and Aretha Franklin type stuff. Alex of course
took a lot of the solos. It was funny to watch the other guitarist look
in awe as Alex played. The Dexters (The house band) introduced him as
"Big Al Dexter". The funniest part of the hole thing was the stage area
was so small that Alex was practically standing in the hall way to the
bathrooms and kitchen. Every time the bus boy went by Alex would have to
turn (while playing of course) to let him past and people would get caught
up in his patch cords on the way to the bathroom.
Afterwards we went to the Hard Rock to see if the person we were supposed
to meet was still there. He was and asked why we had dogged him. I said
"because Alex sat in with the band at The Orbit Room." He said, "No
way!" I said yes and held up my autographed 20 next to the signed Rush
disk on the wall.
Ken Martig
martig@zgi.com
"Ignorance and predjudice and fear walk hand in hand" -N.P.
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From: Christopher Lanczycki <lancz@alw.nih.gov>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:40:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: sowing seeds
Mike Adams asked where the following came from:
>'They say, we're gonna have to pay what's owed,
> We're gonna have to reap from some seed that's been sowed'
Well, I'm 99.6% sure the band is Dire Straits. The little voices
in my head claim the song is 'Telegraph Road', off "Love Over Gold"
(the best DS song of all time, BTW, clocking in at 14 minutes!!), but
I'm less sure of that, the sowing seeds thing being a reasonably
common metaphor.
Chris
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Christopher Lanczycki
Computational Biosciences and Engineering Laboratory
Division of Computer Research and Technology
National Institutes of Health
lancz@alw.nih.gov
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From: dansko@boombox.raxco.com (Dan Skousen)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:56:38 -0600
Subject: Re: 06/29/95 - The National Midnight Star #1106
Bryant Spalding writes:
>
>I just had an idea. Since `Natural Science' is so full of audio and
>visual imagery via of the music and lyrics, why couldn't someone make a
>movie `short' of it? I have the idea of a story along the lines of the
>lyrics whereby cool special effects could be utilized with the latest
>computer morphing technology to show how dangerous nature and the cosmos
>can be when mankind tries to tinker with it. The story would follow the
>attempt of human kind, in the future of course, to draw energy from the
>sun's core directly through a huge collecting station orbiting the sun.
>Only the attempt would cause an instability to form in the sun's furnace
>and result in a supernova. It sounds apocalyptic and bleak but the
>reverse of it is that there would be humans in other parts of the solar
>system and beyond exploring and what not and they would escape. I
>haven't done any research into the speed of a supernova's blast waves or
>anything like that but I think the idea may have some merit.
Yeah, I've thought a great amount about this as well. Being in the computer
industry, my thoughts have drifted to an entirely computer animation video
with Rush songs. I'm not talking here about the usual "kaledeoscope" set
to music, but the use of graphics to show people, special effect, unusual
points of view, etc. Don't think it's possible? Have you checked out
Babylon 5 of late? All special effects are done with computers.
The guy that got me started on Rush (Hey there, Mike Whitmore!) used to help
in a planetarium, and he informed me that he put together a show of the
shuttle launch... I'll let you guess what the background music was. Say,
Mike, if you're out there, write in and tell us all what you did in every
beautiful detail. And if you can get us all copies... ;)
So what do all you folks out there think? What would make a good plot to
some of your favorite Rush songs?
BTW, Bryant, you'd have to be awfully distant to escape from a super-nova
blast. I have heard speculation that if Betelguese were to go (the bright
red star in the lower right hand corner of Orion), it would destroy all life
on Earth. Speculation, you may wish to check at your local Astronomy club,
department, etc.
Also, I'm an avid amateur astronomer, so I've spent many a lonely night (all
right, so my wife was with me) looking at the constellations, nebulae,
distant galaxies, binaries, and clusters while listening to Rush. Some good
memories attached to some of those songs (I won't bore you with the details
such as seeing a meteor streak through the double cluster in Perseus while
listening to RTB, or finding an elusive Messier object during HYF). Anyone
else out there done this sort of thing?
'Til Later!
Dan Skousen
Axent Technologies
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From: spai@sas.upenn.edu (Mr. Sung-Joon Pai)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:07:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: more setlist stuff...
well, it is now thursday and it's been nearly a week since i saw phish
twice. it is so much fun sitting there as the band kicks into a new song
and trying to figure out what it is going to be - and see how early you
can guess it. my friends and i kept looking at each other and saying...
"is it? could it be? i think it's... YES! YES! i didn't think they'd
play it but... YES!"
another thing that has been discussed before is rush's live mix. i've
heard that in certain spots of the arena it sounds better than others
but, to me, i think it might be just too loud. i think it could be
turned down just a notch and you'd still feel neil's bass drums vibrating
through your body - the balance is just hard to hear sometimes. the
sound at the phish shows last weekend was top-notch... the vocals came
through especially clearly.
with all the new technology around, i think rush could put on a high
energy, high emotion, high quality show with great sound. i don't know
how lights work at a show so i'll be looking forward to hearing howard's
remarks when they are posted.
after all this blasphemy, i think i have to go throw five rush discs in
my stereo and kick it on random play for a while... :)
and to whoever posted in the last issue - i agree - presto (the song and
the album) is/are at the top of my list...
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From: cs_lundquist@ccmail.pnl.gov
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Counterparts Time Test
How does Counterparts stack up? IT ROCKS!!! Neil's opening licks are
his most inspired playing of late. However, I must admit after the
first five songs (after Alien shore - my fav) I'm spent. I usually
end up turning off Speed of Love, either because it's boring or
because my wife and kids insist I quit playing air-guitar/drums/bass
on the sofa. There are also a few sparkling moments in LTTA and
Double Agent.
Same with Dream Theater. Love 'em for their musicianship and
creativity, but Awake is so long (75 minutes!!) I can only sustain
about half.
CSL
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From: ahern@sphere.llnl.gov (Sean Ahern)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:43:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Flashback pop quiz
Mat Falter <matt@rsgis2.tamu.edu> wrote:
> The local radio station does a flashback pop quiz every week
> day during lunch, and today the question was, finish this
> line from the Rush song Spirit of of the Radio:
>
> And the words from the prophets were ...
Close. It's "The words of the profits were..."
> Needless to say this Rush fan got it right and I got a Police
> video and a free pizza type thing from the local pizzeria.
Congratulations for getting it right.
Was the D.J. specific in saying that it was "profits" and not "prophets"?
Because if it was "prophets", the answer is "written on the subway walls
and tenament halls". The lines from "Spirit of Radio" are actually a play
on the lyrics to "The Sound of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkel.
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From: super295@service1.uky.edu (Robert G. Buice, Jr.)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:47:59 -0500
Subject: High School Rush
I graduated from HS in 1987 in Memphis, but I must say that I never had to
endure years of Rush persecution in order to come to the true faith. At my
HS almost everyone liked Rush...the majority loved Rush. Even the airhead
cheerleaders had a least one Rush album, usually Permanent Waves. Whenever
Rush came to town there were huge groups of people wearing shirts the next
day. The local rock station played Rush 4-5 times a day. Oh yeah, one of
the walls in my HS boasted a 15 x 20 foot painting of the archives cover.
That's the nude guy and the star. It was truly amazing how the Rush fans
in my HS crossed all socio-economic, racial, and gender barriers.
Robert G. Buice, Jr email: super295@pop.uky.edu
Analytical Spectroscopy Group http://kerouac.pharm.uky.edu/rgbuice.html
College of Pharmacy
University of Kentucky (606) 257-2570
PGP Key: http://kerouac.pharm.uky.edu/pgpkeys.html
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From: <Travis_L._Hayden.ANDERSEN_WO.ANDERSEN_NET@notes.compuserve.com>
Date: 29 Jun 95 12:56:14 EDT
Subject: Peart's drumming
re:randbass@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
" It hurt when I heard that the rap on Neil is that he had
tempo problems (listen to ATAS, ESL), was a flashy, showy drummer- with a
big kit- that overplays. I now know that Neil has admitted his tempo
problems and seems to have corrected them (ASOH)."
What do U mean by "tempo" problemz? He was offbeat? I have never
noticed any "tempo" problems while listening to ESL and ASOH..dont
listen to ATWAS, a very shoddy recording IMHO ;-) Neil has admitted
to being overly concious in the past of his playing when he is being
recorded. His drum playing in concert is the same as the studio..unless
he improvises some..I listen and watch (the videotape concert) closely
trying to find differences. Altho he does sample (ie impossible for one
person to play drum beats) on some tracks (openning/closing fill to Force
Ten and during the "solo" part of Mission) much to my dismay. But come
to think of it there are a coupla mistakes on ATWAS. I agree with U about
the
"greatest drummer" stuff..I just say he is the best rock drummer..not
best drummer
period..altho steve gadd is a great one...but he didnt always
consistently play the
drums in a challenging way..ie compare what he played on "Aja" to
"Glamour
Profession", both songs by Steely Dan by the way ;-) The drummers U
mention
are some great ones, esp Dave Weckl, but I am sure they also experience
"tempo"
problems in concert..esp the *incredible* beats and fills Weckl plays ;-)
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From: spirit_of_rush@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stewart Gilray)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 18:14 BST-1
Subject: News.
After talking to SRO/Anthem 2 weeks ago I can not pass on the new news.
1, Alexs' album does not have a title yet but it is due for completion by
the end of August.
2, Alexs' album will be out at the end of September or the start of
October.
3, Rush get back together for writing during September.
4, If they don't get back together then, then they will be in breach of
their contract.
5, The Fall in the UK will be the first Rush Convention. There is going
to be a coverband, collectors booths, unseen footage (videos and live
material) as well as previously unseen interviews etc. There will also be
some serious prizes donated by SRO/Anthem. For more details Email me.
6, The new Rush album looks likely to be produced by Peter Collins
(although confirmation is due in the next couple of days)
If you want to know more then please Email me at:
spirit_of_rush@cix.compulink.co.uk
Bye!!
Stewart...
Official Spirit of Rush, Alex Lifeson interviewer.
(It's an ego thang.)
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From: "Kohler, Brian" <bkohler@dtic.dla.mil>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:41:00 PDT
Subject: Get Real, Dude
Stephen ( the brave) Francis McGovern <randbass@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
wrote this humorous little piece:
> Don't misunderstand the above- NP is one of the greatest rock
>drummers ever- but he does not stack up against the top in all styles.
>Dave Weckl, Vinnie Coluiata, Dennis Chambers, Peter Erskine, Marvin
>Smith, Steve Gadd (to name a few) all are much more advanced. These
>gentleman are even more polyrhythmic, faster, able to play any style,
>incredibly precise, etc.
Man, you gotta get out more! You're taking this Neil stuff way too
seriously.
I don't mean to flame you here, but please remember that this is all just
your humble opinion. I pretty much think Dave Weckl plays like a girl
and Steve (the snore) Gadd's drumming puts me to sleep faster than the
Grateful Dead do. You don't honestly think that your opinion is going to
sway the rest of us to go "Yeah, he's right, Neil really isn't all *that*
good."
C'mon, Neil = King in our world here at the NMS. And so what if he
doesn't stack up in all areas - who does? There's always gonna be
some guy who's a shred more talented in one little particular area.
Find any other drummer who has more talent in as many areas as Neil.
The guy's a friggin genius.
Then I laughed so hard that I almost fell of the damn sofa when I read this:
> I must tell you at this point that I have an entire drumming community
> behind me.
O.K, You're right, THE ENTIRE DRUMMING COMMUNITY is in total
accord with your statement! Get real dude. (Sorry for the heated tone, but
I just didn't know whether to laugh or cry at this guy when I read this).
Brian Kohler ( a real Neil fan)
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From: Quinindar@aol.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:49:30 -0400
Subject: RE:Question for highschool Rush fans!!l
Hello one and all,
Well I am 16 and a Rush fan, lets see nope not even close to what
your school was like, however a lot of my friends are also Rush fans, I'd say
there are about 20-25, Rush fans at my highschool, although most are not as
hardcore as you and I are. Most kids are either like rap (eeeeeeewwwwwwww)
or they like alternative (great stuff) or they have no idea they just like
everything (man I hate that). Well while I am here I'd like to ask a
question, I heard a rumor that you could get a copy of the book visions
online, is this true??? If so where, tried checking out Barnes and Nobles to
see if they had the book but no beans, oh well. Nice talking to you all.
Dennis Coldwell
"For you the blind who once could see.....
the bell tolls for thee..."
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From: pluong@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:43:28 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: what is Archives?
Hi, I am a fairly new Rush fan, and I was wondering what
Archives is??? is it an old Rush album? or what?
thanks
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From: Gregg Jaeger <jaeger@buphy.bu.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:43:30 -0400
Subject: getting a life?
In reaction to the quotation from _Microserfs_, I'd like to pose the
rhetorical question: What exactly *is* a "life" in high school? Seems
to me its more of an anti-life. Strange how a confused individual can
generate a paradox out of the most straightforward series of events. :)
Gregg
http://buphy.bu.edu/~jaeger
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From: "William B. Jones" <wjones41@mail.caps.maine.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:58:00 -0400
Subject: RE: 06/29/95 - The National Midnight Star #1106
> local news out of Allentown, PA last night, and while they were running
> the scores of the night's baseball games, what else did they play as
> background music but... Leave That Thing Alone!!! Well, needless to say,
> I was so overjoyed by the fact that the local media recognized such great
> music that I didn't even mind that the Phillies were spanked 12-3 by
> Cincinnati. Well, maybe I minded a little...
Well, once being involved in "local media" I can tell you that it's more
likely that one lone Rush "infiltrator" on the staff found the opportunity
to sabotage the mainstream theme with something more tasteful... ;-) I
know I've done it!!
Bill
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From: <Travis_L._Hayden.ANDERSEN_WO.ANDERSEN_NET@notes.compuserve.com>
Date: 29 Jun 95 15:58:03 EDT
Subject:
re: NMS post
"Digital Man, Red Lenses,
Subdivisions, Body Electric, Territories, Big Money, Marathon, Mystic,
Lock and Key, Turn the Page, Open Secrets, Show don't Tell, Scars,
Bravado, Where's My Thing?. Any of these are good choices"
4got 2 comment on this :-) Thats a good list..but Body Electric
is not hard 2 play Subdivisions has that unique 'cross over hand'
fill on the high hat (dont know if thats the proper term ;-)) some1
posted about the fill..and I didn't understand it until I rented the
Chronicles video..it loox like a very hard fill 2 do, very unorthodox
fill..
I am sure U know of the fills I am referring about ;-).. nothing too
challenging on Turn the Page however atleast not 2 me :-) Hmm
Bravado..ppl mention that song alot..tho I cant recall anything difficult
on it, 2 bad I sold the CD (pleez no flamez ;-)) already (weak album)
cuz I would like 2 give it anutha hear..U left out a Peart masterpiece
tho..The Weapon...phenomenal percussionship! ;-) I would also have
added Leave That Thing Alone (instead of Where's my thing),
Manhattan project (drums/percussion so precise, sounds like a drum
machine) and White Water...
"Less experienced drummers will enjoy the
wild playing of a young, unrefined Neil (anything up to Hemispheres).
>From Hemispheres through MP is best suited for those who love "power
rock
drumming". Its more refined, precise and rythmically complex than the
earlier stuff. For great drummers - ones who really know their stuff -
the best of Neil can be found in the 1982-1994 period. "
Thats true..cuz he became more of a drummer/percussionist (acoustic
and electronic)..whereas before he was more of a "pure progressive
rock drummer"..instead of relying heavily on fills his drum beats became
more complicated..altho Hemispheres was a *very* percussion (high hat)
oriented album..the songs Hemispheres, La Villa, Circumstances (hmm
I believe thats on that CD..not sure..at work now ;-)) etc.
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From: coconnor@onlink1.onlink.net
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 18:50:07 -0400
Subject: Interesting Tidbits--Questions Answered
Here's my first attempt at a TNMS post:
In response to the question of Alex Hendrix:
Alex played headliner with All Along the Watchtower
at the Kumbaya festival '94, an AIDS benefit concert. He
also did a solo at the '93 concert but he was still using
his Signatures (the ones that sound like they have over-
stretched rubber bands for strings--Fire! Fire!).
Alex played with a liquid golden grace at '94, his guitar
sound reminiscent of blues playing crossed with something
from RTB/CP. The ONLY problem I found with it (contrary to
popular opinion) is that at the very end of the solo he sort
of hit an extra note accidently and then almost fell over
Lawrence Gowan trying to get out of the spotlight :)
For Stephen McGovern: As a drummer myself I quickly
recognized the fact that Neil has indeed become more
"complex" as the years passed (practice makes perfect), but
as to the Neil being "better" part, I'm not quite as sure.
I, myself, have a great respect for any artist who can get
vulgar with their instrument. For instance: I consider the
entire album Fly By Night to be one solid fill. That's
power. To me, it seems that complexity sometimes takes away
away from the raw anger I see displayed in songs like 2112.
Can you imagine Overture driving to a close with some kind
of 5/4 latino fusion beat, strong in the maracas?
Solution to your tape-making problem then Sean?
Take a song from each album.
Also, all this talk of Rik Emmett and Alex has
gotten me thinking of the quartet these guys did with Liona
Boyd and some guy named Ed. It was in the July, 1987 issue
of Guitar Player and it even included a paper-thin vinyl
insert of the recording! Obscure facts...
Oh! And as to *Live* and "Waterboy", I do see some
sort of resemblence and for some reason I place it in the
Signals era. However, Chad Gracey of *Live* is an
outstanding drummer and as Neil said of him in Modern
Drummer, he "plays just what you want to hear."
My review of Battlescar, the Rush/Max Webster duet:
Geddy snarls. That's all I needed. I loved it immediately.
That's it. I think it's too long, but it's my
first post. Talk to you later. Casey O'Connor...
PS. Archives is not available on CD (I should know--I've
tried ordering it).
PPS. All you CoS non-believers out there turn the volume
above 2 when listening to the album--that's the number of
sides not the volume recommendation. FEEL the power of
Geddy's voice.
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* "Live for yourself -- There's no one else *
* More worth living for" *
* -Neil Peart *
* "Who is John Galt?" *
* -Ayn Rand *
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From: long.179@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jason Long)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:44:24 -0400
Subject: Rush raytrace and homepage
Howdy fellow Rush lovers,
I've started working on a homepage recently and of course I had to include
a part on Rush. Since I just started, I haven't added any links to other
sites, but I did include my first raytracing project (Rush theme) there. It
makes for a great windoze background, so check it out and let me know if you
like it.
Thanx,
Jason
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From: long.179@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jason Long)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:47:20 -0400
Subject: Re:Rush raytrace and homepage
>Howdy fellow Rush lovers,
> I've started working on a homepage recently and of course I had to
include a >part on Rush. Since I just started, I haven't added any links to
other sites, >but I did include my first raytracing project (Rush theme)
there. It makes for >a great windoze background, so check it out and let me
know if you like it.
>Thanx,
> Jason
sorry, I forgot to include the site:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~jlong
click on Rush Goodies
Later
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From: smjones@students.wisc.edu (Sean Jones)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:01:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Jon Tanguy
Just a quick correction for those as anal as myself :) The lead
singer for Yes on the Tormato album was still Jon Anderson. You're thinking
of the Drama album, when Trevor Horn sang for them. I stand accused as a Yes
fan who converted to an even bigger Rush fan my senior year in high school
when Presto came out. It was the first complete Rush album I ever heard.
Within two months of hearing it, I owned every Rush album on CD and have yet
to miss a CD release party for them. Ok, nuff about that.
Sean Jones
PS I love this newsletter! It's all I hoped for and more!
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From: smjones@students.wisc.edu (Sean Jones)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:01:33 -0500
Subject: notes
Ok, I, and everyone else, say Jon correct himself. Sorry for the
previous post. I didn't read far enough ahead (cringe).
The thread on the age of the fans is an interesting one. I'm from
the Chicago/Milwaukee area, and every time I go see a show, the variety of
fans is amazing. There are teenagers and grandparents (eeek!!) at the show
together. I first started listening, as I posted earlier, in my senior year
in high school (1990), and I was far from alone at school. Half of the
people I knew at very least had an album or two (almost always ESL and MP,
but let's not get picky) and, at least as far as I knew. there was no
connotations of geekiness (to pick up another thread) with listening to
Rush. Kids loved the fact that I could play some of their stuff on bass and
sing it as well (no, I don't sound like Geddy, no one does). I NEVER heard
anyone make fun of Rush. I assume I am in the minority here, after seeing
other posts. I find it hard to believe that those associations were made. I
mean, it's music. It's harder than, say, Pink Floyd, but softer than
Metallica. It's more complex than Van Halen, but not as complex as Yes. It's
music. The only bad thing I ever heard about them was by my girlfriend, who
didn't like Geddy's voice at first. (BTW, she now loves, I repeat, LOVES
Presto and Roll the Bones). Ok, enough of the "I'm amazed" bit. I never
have, nor ever will, see Rush as a "geeky" band, nor a band that only the
losers listen to, or anything like that. From my experience, they have stuff
for everyone and anyone who is open-minded enough to actually LISTEN to
them. (that's the tough part). Ok nuff for now. See yawl later
Sean Jones
------Just think of what my life my be......
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From: Jabberwock <jrigg@emory.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 23:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: To speak of many things...
I've been just hanging out, quietly reading TNMS for a year or so, on and
off; that is, on most of the time, off during finals. I posted when I
first subscribed, but its been a year, so this might as well be my first
post. Having observed TNMS tradition, I move on to the matters at hand.
1) Dream Theater. I listened to 'em at my local record store the other
day, and I think I'll have to cast my votes with the crowd that doesn't
tend to compare them to Rush. I found the lyrics compelling, but a bit
over-dramatic in spots, a bit too much flash and not enough substance, if
you will. The musicianship sounded a bit cluttered to me, and awkward in
places; I really didn't hear any of the musical savvy that I have come
to expect from Rush. In essence, I enjoyed the music, but not enough to
buy an album, and I certainly think comparisons between the two bands to
be something akin to apples and oranges.
2)I got the Police (read: Sting before he played wimp soft-rock) Message
in a Box set; that is, every song they ever recorded on four _really_
long CDs, and I highly recommend them. (sorry about this further
non-Rush content, but power-trio aficionados that I am sure inhabit this
listserv will find them nice to listen to in between Rush albums,
especially with retro being the fashion...)
3)I now study at Emory University in Atlanta, where few people have heard
of Rush, but as I grew up in Denver, I can recall Rush being a huge band;
and I am only two years out of High School. Is it that Rush is a
Midwestern/Western/Northeastern/Canadian thing and they just couldn't
find a market where Lynard Skynard dominates the collective conciousness?
(namely the Southeast) Southerners please confirm.
Enough rambling, sorry for the length.
Spader...
__johnB...
Summer's going fast, nights growing colder
Children growing up -- old friends growing colder
Experience slips away...
-Rush
Time Stands Still
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From: JEFF KAPLAN <73374.1025@compuserve.com>
Date: 30 Jun 95 00:23:10 EDT
Subject: High School Popularity and More....
Good day all! Just a quick story about some high school folks I ran into a
couple weeks back in an alternative/modern independent record store. They were
typical So. Kalifornia surfter/punk looking chaps, about 15 or so. They were
looking for some new CD's and happened over to where I'm at, (The Rush section,
of course!), when one of them noticed I was thumbing through the collection,
looking for anything I don't already have. One of them made a comment like, "
Wow, these dudes are really old and no good." or something like that. I was
about the defend, but the other jumped right in and told his friend how much his
older bro. likes Rush, don't put them down. He then asked me what would be a
good Rush CD to buy. (Ouch, that is a hard choice.) Turned him on to Moving
Pics, only 'cause that seems to be the most well known. (My fav. is
Hemisphere's, but thought that was a lilttle too heavy for a beginner Rush Fan
to get in to.) Anyway, it was good to see that some of the next generation
still have respect for the Boyz of Canada..
I, too, would like to see them change their set list a little in concert, if
possible. Had the chance to see them three time here in Kalifornia on the
Counterparts tour, (San Diego, Los Angeles, Anaheim), but was a little
disappointed that each show was exactly the same! (Not that they weren't GREAT
shows. The Trees, followed by Xanadu, followed by Cygnus X-II, need I say
more???!!!???) But it would have been nice to see them change the encore a bit
each night. Most of the stage show is in the beginning and middle of the set,
so the encore can be modified with a little work for each night. Still didn't
keep me from having an amazing time!
One final comment about Alex and his guitar. (Can we finally put the issue to
rest?) He is an intergal part of the group, obviously, but more than that, it
is the three of them TOGETHER that form the soul of Rush. Remove any part, and
the whole is gone. (This might be good material for Neil to write about. If so,
you heard it here first....) Ranking Alex's ability is irrelevant. Ranking
Alex's place in stature is irrelevant. It is the "synergy" of the GROUP, if you
will, that is to be admired. (Now that I think about it, Neil has already wrote
about this in Chemistry on Signals!) Oh well, guess I couldn't expect to cover
untreaded ground....
Sorry for the long post, but so much to say.... EMAIL WELCOME!!!!!
"Hold the Red Star proudly high in hand!!!"
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From: JEFF KAPLAN <73374.1025@compuserve.com>
Date: 30 Jun 95 00:27:07 EDT
Subject: Quick Correction
Just remembered, (if my mem. is good, 'cause my CD's are not here), Chemistry
was written by all three, not just Neil. Hence, my point from the previous post
is even more valid. I'm outta here.....
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From: Daemon Christianson <Tracy.Mangum@m.cc.utah.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 00:30:36 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Thoughts
Greetings all,
Just a few thoughts, and opinions about threads going on lately. I am
two years out of high school, and I knew a lot of Rush fans, but they
were not really overt fans. At first you wouldn't know they were fans
until you got to know them. They were quite underground, but we were
VERY devout! I was voted most likely to become a RUSH martyr by my
graduating class. :)
A lot of people I know say they have never heard of Rush, but then
when I play stuff like "Nobody's Hero" or "Limelight" or "Spirit of the
Radio" or "Tom Sawyer," then while singing the lyrics, they realize that
they know the song, and have heard Rush. They don't get a lot of air
time here in Utah...sigh. And what they do play on the airwaves, are the
classics like "Limelight" or "Spirit of the Radio." I heard "Nobody's
Hero" when CP was released, as well as "Stick it out" and I heard
"Animate" once. But yes we do exist, and when they came for the RTB
tour, the Delta Center was almost completely sold out. Fans of the boys
exist, even in high school, even in Utah. :)
And to the guy who wanted to know if anyone else out here liked Chad
Gracey from the band +LIVE+ the answer is an overwhlming YES! It was
Neil in the radio premeire of CP, and in the Modern Drummer of Febuary
'94, where he recommended Chad Gracey as a great drummer he was enjoying
listening to that convinced me to give +Live+ a try. I was amazed. The
guys were about 19-20 when that CD was released, but they played way
beyond their years. He plays with the same sort of passion that Neil
does, and instead of playing as fast as he can, or as loud as he can, he
creates complex rythms that mold into the music. That is why I can
listen to both bands quite a bit, and never lose interest. The drums
that Neil and Chad both play, become much more than just for the tempo,
but instead are important parts that add to everyone elses sound. It's
been argued so much wether or not Neil is the greatest out there...and he
may not be the fastest, or the most complex, but the reason he is my
favorite to listen to, is that he plays what the song demands of him, and
does not force his style onto the song, or the other members of the
band. I love stuff like his solos at concerts, and stuff in "Tom Sawyer"
etc. as much as I do in "Heresy" or in The Weapon.
Even though +LIVE+ is very big now, I think that they will be in for
the long haul. Their passion for their music, and their talent suggests
to me that they won't burn out and break up as so many bands do that
suddenly hit the big time. They have been playing with each other since
grade school, and have lasted this far, lets hope it continues.
One more note (if anyone is still reading) none of the stores around
here have either Oziric Tentacles or Echolon. (spelling?) So if anyone
could pick them up for me, I would be happy to mail a check for the CD's,
and the shipping costs.
Thanks all! And +LIVE+ is coming Aug. 21st. to Wolf Mt. here in
Utah! :) 2nd time seeing them live!
Tracy
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From: mrwhite@lanminds.com (Mr. White)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 00:11:56 -0800
Subject: Re: 06/29/95 - The National Midnight Star #1106
>hated them. I can't wait unitl Rush comes out with a new tour so i can
>see them (started to like them after Counterparts tour) and i hope to get
>more of their older stuf, i heard it is better than the new! (if that is
>possible??)
I saw them on Counterparts and it was unbelievable--you'll love them live.
In my opinion, their old stuff is just as good as their new stuff (which is
to say basically the best music ever recorded). My favourite albums have
got to be Counterparts, A Farewell to Kings, Presto, Hemispheres, Grace
Under Pressure and of course, Moving pictures (they're all so good, it's
hard to say). So there's a lot of old and new--they're really a different
sound and it kinda depends on the mood I'm in, y'know?
Otherwise, what's this Echolyn craze? I'd never even heard of them til I
signed on with TNMS. If anyone has any information on them, please respond
or email me; I'm very curious. If they're progressive, it sounds good to
me--aside from Rush, I also love DT, King Crim, Yes and all that other cool
stuff.
Has anyone out there heard of Alanis Morisette (I know it's not
Rush-related, but I'm just curious)?
"You know how complex women are" (always loved that line)
Mr. White (mrwhite@lanminds.com)
mrwhite@lanminds.com
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From: DHUART@midas.sinclair.edu
Date: 30 Jun 95 12:24:14 EDT
Subject: Emmett (II) too.
I must agree with Brad,
Listen to Riks voice/lyrics/guitar. I think he has a fine voice. If
you complain about his screeching early days.... remember Geddy. I per-
sonally liked Geddy's voice from day one, and it follows that I like Rik's
too.
Listen to "Ordinary Man" from "Allied Forces" (a great album) or the
duet with Gilmour (Triumphs drummer) "Killing Time" from "Thunder Seven"
for good examples of Riks versatile range.
His guitar can either lull you, or peel your face off ("Rock-n-Roll
Machine"). He really is a smart player, and after talking with him during
one of his solo tours I believe him to be an intelligent man, and a big
Rush fan too!
12121.exe {enter beg mode at interupt 7} Did anyone tape the recent
Queensryche live radio tour ??? And if so, would you be willing to do
some trading. My tape player recently dined on my copy, I would be enternally
grateful to any kind soul.
Please email if you can help me out
either dhuart@midas.sinclair.edu -or- ah160@dayton.wright.edu will do
the trick. Thanks!!
David
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From: Peter Beshuk <pbeshuk@TSO.Cin.IX.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:12:46 -0400
Subject: Other bands, anthem video, misc.
Hi, just a few thoughts:
1. A few months ago, I suggested y'all might want to try another band
called Psychodots. I won't say they sound a lot like Rush, but, to me,
they have the same sense of energy in their songs. I'd compare them
to Del Amitri without so many ballads. They have a new CD called
"Awkwardsville"; it's great. You can get their CD's by mail at:
Umbrella artists
P.O. Box 8385
Cin., Oh 45208 $15
I have no connection to the band, BTW. I won't mention it again.
2. I've discovered another band called Mara which is VERY Rush-like
They will soon have a new CD. You can get their first CD at
Mara
3230 Jefferson ave
Cin. Oh 45220 $13
Again, I've no connection to these guys. It's just a suggestion.
3. This may be old news: There's a local underground newspaper here in
Cincy that announced an umpcoming release from Dream Theater of all
all cover songs. In the past, this newspaper has been accurate. I
don't know if it's a full length CD or if its live. It's an official
release, not a bootleg. Previously, people have told me that the
Tears cover was only on their Subconcious Bootleg. Rush was listed
as one of the covered groups.
4. Tried Echolyn: great musicians, sound like Rush, songwriting: eh.
pete beshuk
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From: rochette@eas.slu.edu
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:53:28 -0500
Subject: lyrics
Just a couple of comments...
1. Corey Harbaugh responded to a lyric interpretation...
>"War Paint"-
>I understand the phrase "the mirror always lies" in terms of an adolescent's
>need for outside approval. A mirror is supposed to reflect back a true image
>of a person... and a teenager's self-worth is often connected to this
>reflection... Young people gaze at the mirror longing to see a "beautiful"
>person looking back at them. Of course, as Neil points out... this
>superficial reflection cannot measure true beauty, for that lies within.
>Thus, a mirror lies to a person when it reflects surface beauty, providing a
>false measure of worth.
>............>
Here's another point of view...back in the old days, when I took high
school physics, we learned that a flat mirror results in what's known
as a virtual image, since, I assume, that your features are reversed
when you look into it (right on left and vice versa). A convex mirror
will project a real image, although a consequence of this is that the
image is upside down. So, when one looks in a mirror, you don't get
a "true" image. Sorry, the scientist in me couldn't resist.
Actually, I don't get too much into that lyric interpretation as I used
to. Not to say that I don't like well-written words nor do they,
matter, I just prefer enjoying them without trying to get into the
writers' heads for danger of misreading their intentions. Jon Stewart
said a couple of weeks ago (paraphrasing) that Julie Andrews sang
"Climb Every Mountain," but he doesn't go hiking every weekend...it's
just a song. Maybe a phenomenally well-written and performed song, but
still just a song. No flames please, just my opinion.
2. Mike Adams asked about some non-Rush lyrics...
<deletia>
'They say, we're gonna have to pay what's owed,
We're gonna have to reap from some seed that's been sowed'
>Sorry for the mixup, but once again - can anyone name the band and the
>song that line is from?
>............>
Yes I can. It's from Dire Straits, a song called "Telegraph Road."
It's from their fourth (?) album called _Love Over Gold_, an excellent
yet underrated release. Highly recommended. The initials M. K. stand
for Mark Knopfler, the guitarist/vocalist/lyricist in the band. Talk
about well-written lyrics...
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Scott M. Rochette (314) 977-3133 (voice)
Department of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences (314) 977-3117 (fax)
Saint Louis University rochette@omega.eas.slu.edu ('net)
meteorologist:
(ME' TE e ROL' e JIST) - a person with the education of a physicist and the
pay scale of a 7-11 employee.
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are my own; I don't speak for the Department
or for SLU, nor do they speak for me. Nor would I want to.
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