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Bob Larson talks back!
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From: "Scott.Mikusko" <21922SM@msu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated
Subject: Bob Larson ( sort of ) Talks-Back
Date: Thu Sep 23 05:27:11 1993
Here's is the latest article on the Bob Larson scandal. This article
also appears in last month's _Christian Press Report_, and was given
to me personally by Ken Smith for posting to the newsgroups. This may
be distributed without concerns for copyrights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob Larson (sort of) Talks-Back<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
" You deserve to die, Bob Larson ... I'll brand Satan's cross on YOUR
forehead!"{1} Such are the threats of Glen Benton, lead singer ( and I
use that term advisedly ) of the Tampa-based death-metal band, Deicide.
Even in his photographs, the burly 25-year-old rocker looks as sinister as
his music sounds, right down to the inverted cross - his 'trademark'-
burned into his forehead. A challenge like that, from a self-professing
Satanist, would frighten any sane man.
But the object of Benton's attention, veteran Christian talk-show
host Bob Larson, shows no fear. In a fund raising letter, he boated that
he will face Benton anywhere - "with the armor of the Lord and the
power of God's word."{2} Benton reiterated his threats while in Denver on
a recent concert tour, but Larson was so confident that, to the best of
our knowledge, he never even bothered to press charges.
July 15, 1993. Larson appears as a guest on Ft. Lauderdale radio
station WFTL, denouncing death-metal bands like Slayer and others as
"posers" who are merely in it for the money. But when host Pat Stevens
asked him whether he was in the ministry for money, he indignantly
said that he was "insulted" that she would even ask that question. And
that's where I come in.
My opening salvo was familiar to CPR readers: "The primary mission
of Bob Larson Ministries is to minister to the extragavant needs of
Bob Larson; the kids are just an alibi."{3} I followed by reiterating
three basic charges: (1) although he tells his audience that his
ministry was on the edge of financial disaster, it was sitting on nearly
$2 million in cash;{4} (2) even though he supposedly earned a modest
$69,000 salary from the Ministry, his total compensation package from
the Ministry sources was somewhere in the neighborhood of $500,000 per
year.{5} and (3) while we had a copy of a letter from his attorney
{6} clearly indicating that he did not - in any meaningful sense of
the word - write his best selling novel, _Dead Air_, se still claimed
authorship. I further outlined the documentation we have at our
disposal, which includes contracts, the Ministry's audited financial
statements, and other documents signed under penalty of perjury.
As a guest, Larson didn't have his 'panic button' handy; he became
almost apoplectic. His calm, self-assured facade gave way; his voice
betrayed a chilling sense of desperation. You see, it is quite easy
to refute the ravings of a madman ... but facing up to several pounds
of hard documentation is quite another matter.
Unable to respond intelligently to my charges, Larson resorted to
to a ferocious ad hominum assault - accusing me of complicity in a
litany of criminal acts, and labeling me a "stalker" who has hounded
him for years. And then, he adroitly tried to change the subject:
"You want to talk about my novel. If you want to talk
about that I'd be happy to discuss it; if you want to
talk about the personal private affairs or the personal
marital affairs of the other gentleman in the room - and
let's bring all those issues out into the open - and we
want to make that the subject ..."{7}
Stevens saw through Bob's blatent diversionary tactic, and would
have none of it:
PS: "Well, what we want to talk about, Bob, is Bob Larson
Ministries, and Bob LArson Ministries is what you had, and
that's - that seems to be what's being taken into issue here."
BL: "We're not here to talk about Bob LArson Ministries."
PS: "Well, I'M here to talk about Bob Larson Ministries.
are you ASHAMED of your involvement with the Ministries? Are
you not willing to confront this individual?"
BL [interrupting]: " I, er ..."
PS: "If he's actually a liar, then you should be really
anxious to point it out on the air, and PROVE he's a liar !"
BL: "Pat, if you know anything about pathological stalkers,
you know the most dangerous thing you can do is to allow
these people any further opportunity, and I will not threaten
the lives of my family ..."
PS: "Sounds to me like you're a chicken, Bob. Sounds to me
like you're too darned afraid to bring this up ... and I
think you'd better pray to God, and have a little bit of
strength and courage and confront this issue."{8}
The phone fell silent. Bob Larson, that proud spiritual warrior,
a grizzled veteran of hundreds of exorcisms, simply hung up. And,
when the people of WFTL tried to get him back, he evidently refused:
"He's afraid of your long distance caller. He won't go back on the
air."{9}
Let's put this incident in it's proper perspective. Bob Larson
can look the Devil in the eye - and, make him blink. He can face
avowed Satanists like Glen Benton and Vince Crowley ( of the death-
metal band Asheron ) without fear - for he knows the armor of the
Lord will protect him. But yet, he flees in stark terror from the
inquiries of a certified public accountant ?
Res ipsa loquitur (the thing speaks for itself).
_Judge not, lest ye be judged_ ...
As _world_ editor Joel Belz pointed out,{10} Bob Larson's
teachings are the picture of orthodoxy. Thus it is not that he doesn't
believe the Scriptures, but rather, that he believes that they apply
only to mere mortals - best selling authors and commentators are,
of course, exempt. For little gods like Bob, do what thou wilt shall
be the whole of the law.
For instance, in a letter to Christian talk-show host John Stewart,
Larson chastises him for his supposed "efforts to publicly bring harm
to the Lord's work" and involkes Matthew 7:1 "... in the same way you
judge others, you will be judged (NIV)."{11} Further, he has vilified
his other critics, charging them with perpetrating "vicious attacks"
and engaging in "unethical" conduct on occasions too numerous to mention.
{12} Therefore, if he is to have the right to judge us, his conduct in
this affair must be itself reasonably ethical, and devoid of vindict-
iveness. In that light, let us consider how Bob Larson has conducted
his affairs.
In the winter of 1988, a Larson employee leaked internal BLM memos
to _Christianity Today_ outlining a scheme where Bob wpould feign ill-
ness, so that he could make his annual vacation in Maui without suffering
a drop in donations. Of course, the memo mysteriously disappeared ...
and just three weeks later, that "extremely mentally unstable" employee,
as Larson put it, was fired.{13} The employee, Yvonne Morgan, sued Larson
shortly thereafter; some of the allegations made in her pleadings are
decidedly intriguing:
"7. After her probationary period, Plaintiff became aware of
unusual, and improper practices, including practices which she
believed to be unlawful.
8. Upon realizing that unlawful practices were occuring,
including but not limited to donors being provided false
information conerning financial needs/expenditures of BOb
Larson Ministries, ...
9. In response to a request for feedback from Defendant,
Bob Larson, Plaintiff provided written memoranda, as well as
provided verbal input concerning what she believed to be impr-
oper practices, including the hiring of an individual, and the
ministry paying her a substantial sum of money when it was
obvious to Plaintiff, and others, that the primary purpose in
her hired to work for the ministry was a personal one of
Defendant, Bob Larson.
10. A great deal of undue stress, and other intentional
conduct was perpetrated against Plaintiff, including but not
limited to her receiving a memo shortly before she was term-
inated, to the effect that 'your body is going to be found
floating face down in a river ...'
28. From the time that Plaintiff began opposing the unlawful
practices of Defendants, she has been receiving, and continues
to receive harassing phone calls at home" {14}
Larson quietly settled this case out of court for $30,000,{15} and if
the allegations Morgan made had any grounding in fact, advisedly so.
In defense of Larson, the line separating illegal from unethical conduct
is not always a clear one. However, the Morgan incident is evidence of
Larson's modus operandi: the strategy he employs is to neutralize his
critics.
Lori Boespflug, _World_'s 'star witness', reported that Larson hurled
personal threats at her as well. In my July 1992 interview with her, she
related her firing ( on a Saturday night, at her daughter's dance recital )
in lurid detail - among the myriad vulgarities he unleashed during his
tirade, he pledged to "make her life a living hell."{16} It is, ironically,
one of the precious few promises that he has, on some level, able to KEEP.
Larson's penchant for defaming his opponents is, if anything, even
more pronounced. However, the shameless methods he will resort to in order
to get his 'mud' are so far beyond the pale of ethical behavior as to
speak for themselves. You can imagine my shock when I received a copy
of this internal Bob Larson Ministries memo from one of my BLM sources:
"TO: Angelo [Diasparra, BLM vice-president]
RE: Rummerfield [Golden, CO-based private investigator David]
CC: None
DATE: 12/28/92
FROM: Bob Larson
I think you need to talk it over with Chris J. [Chris Johnson,
the Ministry's general counsel] the options he has indicated.
I am not impressed with this report. Is this all we get for the
money spent? He hasn't reached any conclusions that we didn't
already know. I thought we'd get some serious info about Ken
Smith that couldn't be obtained by any reasonable person by just
reading his letters. I hesitate to go forward unless he does
some serious detective work ... Smith's finances, employment
situation, comings and goings, relationships ... anything we
can do to put some heat on him.
Also, by now you should have checked up on the Susan Miller
situation and returned her call. (Be careful for a set up.)
We don't need Rummerfield for that. You call and find out
what you can." {17}
Larson has never disputed the authenticity of this memo - instead, he
has cklaimed that it was the product of compter theft.{18} But even if it
was obtained from the Ministry via gunpoint, it still wouldn't change the
fact that Larson was intent upon gathering on me that can have only two
conceivable purposes: blackmail or revenge. [Incidently, upon receiving
said memo, I immediately turned it over to the custody of the Lakewood
(CO) Police Department;{19} my copy was obtained from John Trott of
_Cornerstone_ magazine.]
In an interview on Wichita radio station KNSS, Larson explained the
memo in the following manner:
"It was a private communication with regards to threats upon
my life ... with regards to arson threats upon my property."{20}
If there is any nexus between that memo and supposed arson threats, it
is tenuous in the extreme. The Lakewood P.D. diid report one incident, but
it was more the flavor of a high-school prank than anyuthing else. As the
reporting officer described it, this purported "threat" consisted of a
photograph of two unidentifiable individuals - wearing hooded robes and
apparently "holding a flaming bottle of beer" - allegedly standing outside
his house. The message on the back of the photograph read, "This Bud's
for you, Sh**head ! Happy Halloween P.S. Love your house $441,000."{21}
As one might have expected, Larson fingered me as a suspect, if for no
other reason than I was getting a tad close too close to uncovering the
skeletons in his Ministry's closet.
None of Larson's opponents have been spared from his naked and vin-
dictive 'verbal muggings'. His latest victim (aside from myself) was
Chicago-based _Cornerstone_ magazine:
[in response to a caller] "No, _Cornerstone_ is not a
reputable magazine. They've been on a 'kick' for the last
two years to destroy anyone who speaks out against Satanism,
and they will stoop to any tactic, they will lie, they will
misrepresent any fact, and they will twist anything ...
And what they did to me - the lies they were willing to
distribute and the things they were willing to tell that
were flat out lies ... and they know that they were lies ...
and the kind of, uh, uh, I wouldn't expect out of the
_National Enquirer_ what they did behind the scenes in the
most ugly - the most incredible, ugly kinds of ways to
destroy me ..."{22}
[re: a follow up question on Mike Warnke] "It isn't just an
issue of what they said about Mike that was true or not true,
it's how they went about it ... the tactics - the unethical
illegal tactics they used to bring Mike down. It was vicious
and it was ugly. I know went on behind the scenes, and it's
some of the same kind of junk they tried to pull against me."{23}
What Larson unquestionably objected to the most is that _Cornerstone_
reprinted the most damning evidence against him, a letter from attorney
William T. Abbott - which clearly indicates that Larson did not, in fact,
write _Dead Air_, "his" best selling novel. And, although he evidently
lacks the courage to address these issues in a neutral site against a
knowledgable opponent, he has seen fit to respond to the charge in the
comparative safety of his own studio (the caller raising the question
was heavily censored, and was not afforded a chance to comment). His
explanation is as follows:
"What they (_Cornerstone_) printed was plain and simple:
An attorney, that represented this ministry a couple of years
ago, became concerned about an employee who might try to
assert unreasonable rights, claiming contributions to the
book that were lies, and he was warning me in advance about
that. In fact, that very employee was fired for immoral
reasons [sic], turned around and did make the allegations
I was warned about in that idiotic letter that was a stolen
document of confidential private information between attorney-
client privilege [sic], had to do with an attempt by this
very individual, and all the attorney was trying was warn me
that that might happen. That's all !"{24}
While Larson is a master of making it look as if he is the victim,
the letter he is referring to paintsa drastically different picture.
Phrases like "knowing the role Lori has played,""I know how I would advise
her in this regard," and "You will be required to write more" make it
self-evident that Larson's attorney knew full well that Lori Boespflug
could lay legitimate claim to the authorship of _Dead Air_. Standing
alone, that letter ( and Larson's misrepresentation of it ) is highly
incriminating. However, in light of the wealth of corroborating
evidence (e.g., signed contracts, letters from Thomas Nelson editor
Janet Thoma to Boespflug, a Form 1099-MISC, authentication of
the letter by Bill Abbott himself, et al.), it becomes the proverbial
'smoking gun'.
Larson's other contentions are either ad hominum or non sequiturs.
Ms. Boespflug was in fact fired for living with her fiance, but there is
fairly convincing evidence that there was a lot more to the story than
meets the eye. But regardless of the moral judgment you pass on her
conduct ( do keep in mind that LARSON divorced his wife - not the other
way around - and recently married a divorcee nearly 20 years his junior){25}
, it should not lessen her credibilty in the slightest. If anything, it adds
to her credence to her testimony - she didn't even try to deny it, despite
the fact that she "was certain" that she would be fired for admitting it.{26}
Along similar lines, Larson's claim that the Abbott letter was subject
to the "attorney-client privilege" is equally ludicrous. If, as Larson states,
Bill Abbott was in the employ of Bob Larson Ministries - as opposed to
Bob Larson individually - then that document was in fact Ministry property.
Hence, Boespflug, a corporate officer,{27} had a clear right to possession,
and arguably, a fiduciary obligation to disclose Larson's ultra vires
activities. Conversely, even if Abbott was in the employ at the time the
letter was written, the attorney-client privilege can be lost through client
negligence. Besides, if Bill Abbott was representing both the corporation
and Bob Larson personally, all sorts of conflict-of-interest problems come
up. Thus it would seems that Boespflug obtained the letter legally and
ethically. Consequently, so did _Cornerstone_'s John Trott.
I respectfully submit that Bob Larson does not have the requisite standing
to complain that he is the victim of unethical conduct. The common law has an
old saying: "He who asks equity must DO equity."
I could go on ( and have in my earlier article, _The Two Faces of Bob_,
, but I trust that I have made my point. Bob Larson is a liar and a rogue -
a man with the conscience of Jeffery Dahmer, the grace of Sean Penn, and the
COURAGE of Roberto Duran. His holy grail is naked power; he cares not about
those he would use and destroy in order to attain it. I've seen the
evidence, spoken to the victims ....
AND BOB KNOWS IT. THAT'S WHY HE FEARS ME.
_For Whom the Bell Tolls ..._
It is perhaps fitting that, by his own words, Bob Larson has sealed his
fate. Responding to a caller who criticized him for his penchant for
attacking cults like the Mormons and Masons, he said:
"Sir, when people claim to be Christian, or Christ-like,
and they are lying to the public, I consider it my Biblical
responsibilty - MY BIBLICAL RESPONSIBILTY - to take a stand."{28}
And all across the country, good Christians are beginning to take a stand.
One former 'Bob-backer' went so far as to pass out copies of _The Two Faces
of Bob_ at his appearance in Dallas - and was quickly escorted from the
premises by Larson's security people. A gentleman in Witchita, after hearing
the Larson interview there, took it upon himself to offer us a donation
(we don't accept them). Still others are joining this fight in more subtle
ways: not contributing to BLM, boycotting Thomas Nelson (Bob's publishers),
and making their own opinion known on the nation's bulletin boards.
But the real heroes of this story are where you'd least expect to find
them: inside the walls of Bob Larson's own fortress. Even at the risk of their
careers, they provided a steady stream of essential intelligence. When Bob
strutted his stuff on the town with his latest lovely, we knew about it. When
Bob prepared to launch his counter-attack, we were ready for it. And when
Bob threw his world-class hissy fit, storming out of his office after our
little confrontation in Witchita, we heard about it. Sad fact is, these people
might never be able to take their well-deserved bows. They are willing to
place the truth above even thier own livelihood; that demands courage.
WHERE PEOPLE DARE TO LEAD, THEIR LEADERS CARE TO FOLLOW.
Regrettably, the record of the Christian journalistic community had not
been quite as exemplary; the word "abysmal" would be rather kind. Still, there
are indications that even these self-serving sycophants will see the train
before it hits them. Even David Neff - who bears the responsibilty for the
whitewash job in _Christianity Today_, "Bob on the Block" - candidly
acknowleged that I provided him "with materials which suggest that indeed
something is rotten in Bob Larson's ministry."{29} (Of course, he was nowhere
to be found when his condor would have been useful, but that is another story,
for another place and time.) Who knows, maybe even Doug Trauten will "get
religion,", as my Con Law professor is wont to say. Folks like Anton Hein
and the people at _Cornerstone_ deserve kudos for their courage ... but they
are execeptions, not the rule.
Those station owners who carry Larson's programs could arguably be cited
as complicitors in this sordid affair. Bob Larson, despite his consistent
claim of poverty, is easily one of the best "pays" in the business. When
considering whether to pull "Talk-Back," CKER general manager Diana Parker
observed that they would be "lucky" to sell that time slot to another
Christian broadcaster for 50% of what Bob Larson paid.{30} Another station
owner - who swapped anonymity for candor - admitted that if he lost "Talk-
Back," he might have to close his station.{31} It is difficult to resist the
allure of easy money - only a handful of stations (including CKER, one of
Canada's "ethnic" stations, and WHLV (whose owner, Garyl Gibson, did the
original work on Larson) found the strength to resist. By contrast, Anchorage
pastor Jerry Prevo, a BLM board member that reputedly has an interest in one
of Larson's most profitable stations, has stood by in silence.
But no one is more deserving of scorn than Thomas Nelson president Sam
Moore. Under his leadership, Nelson has fallen to a standard of depravity
which isn't even tolerated by that supposed 'object lesson in moral decay'
called Hollywood. When it was discovered that Milli Vanilli did not record the
vocals on one of their best-selling songs, the entire musical world was
outraged; when it was learned that Larson did not write "his" best-selling
novel, the mavens of 'mainstream morality' were strangely quiescent. And now
we know why: Jerry Falwell's ghostwriter is gay.{32}
Divine justice at work.
Maybe it has. Whether it is my will or Thine, the Bob Larson scandal has
brought together the unlikeliest band of confederates imaginable. But all for
a worthy cause.
During WFTL's Larson interview, Bob Sands, senior pastor of Griffin Road
Baptist Church, put the Larson scandal in proper perspective:
"I have no trouble with them bringing up information about
him, because I think he's leading people astray, and the
danger is that he's mixing a little bit of truth with a little
bit of error. And then what happens is somebody like Bob
Larson gets on your particular radio program, and then all
the other people who are Christians - are out there doing
legitamate ministries trying to help people - look bad."{33}
An earlier caller poignantly pierces the veil of illusion and hypocrisy
which Bob Larson has so skillfully woven into the fabric of his life and
ministry:
Fred: "I've listened to Bob for about ten years, when he first
went on KVTT in Dallas, and one of the things I think is rather
interesting about it is when we look at Bob, and what he says
about being a self-styled expert on satanism and the occult is:
what's his background? I.e., What church does he go to? Where is
he ordained? By what denomination? What is his educational back-
ground - does he have a college degree? What is is his military
experience? If you check this, it all adds up to zero."
Pat Stevens [ with raucous laughter in the background]: " He's ...
he's never been ordained? And he doesn't go to church?"
Fred: "If he's ordained, he won't tell us who it is!"
Paul Castranova: "Can you back this up?"
Fred: "Yes, I can guarantee he will not tell you on the air or
anywhere else what church he goes to ... his college, he was
supposed to go to the University of Nebraska; he never graduated,
he was a dropout. [ PS makes a mostly futile attempt to hold back
her laughter.] And the fact is, what's his military background?"
PS: "Well, this - Was he ever in the military?"
Fred: "Where?"
PS: "I don't know. Did he claim ..."
PC: "You don't have to be in the military to be a preacher,
though, or talk on the radio."
Fred: "What I'm saying is that this is a man who has been
berating Bill Clinton on his program, week after week, and yet,
we find out that he doesn't even have the credentials that Bill
Clinton has!"{34}
Still, there are those in the Christian community who would defend Bob
Larson ... and that may be the most pernicious scandal of all.
___________________________________________________________________
ENDNOTES
1 Bob Larson, "Back me in the Battle," Fund-Raising Letter,
6 Apr. 1992.
2 Ibid., p. 2.
3 Ken Smith, "Hot Talk with Al Rantell," Radio broadcast, 15 Jul.
1993
4 Bob Larson Ministries, 1991 Consolidated Balance Sheet (obtained
from BLM, 12 Aug. 1992, balance sheet reprinted in summary form
in K. Smith, "The Two Faces of Bob," infra n. 5) p. 2.
5 Ken Smith, "The Two Faces of Bob," April, 1993 ( reprinted in
_Christianity Press Report_ 15 Jun. 1993, currently on Abba II
bb under LARSON-0.zip.
6 William T. Abbott, Letter, 8 Jul. 1991 (Reprinted in J. Trott,
"Bob Larson Comes Under Scrutiny," _Cornerstone_, Vol. 21 Issue
100, Feb. 1993, p. 41.).
7 Bob Larson, "Hot Talk with Al Rantell," Radio broadcast, 15 Jul.
1993
8 "Hot Talk," ibid.
9 Ibid., ibid.
10 Joel Belz, "We Can't Be the Last to Tell," Editorial, _World_,
23 Jan. 1993, p. 3.
11 Bob Larson, Letter, 10 Feb. 1993, p. 2.
12 E.g., Bob Larson, "Talk Back with Bob Larson," Radio broadcast,
29 Jan 1993.
13 "Questions Raised About Bob Larson Campaign," _Christianity
Today_, 3 Mar. 1989, p. 48.
14 _Morgan v. Bob Larson Ministries_, Complaint and Jury Demand,
signed 6 Mar 1989 by attorney Andrew T. Brake, pp. 2-4
(according to Denver District Court clerks, the suit was never
filed).
15 Lori Boespflug, Interview, 16 Jan. 1992.
16 Ibid., ibid ( see also, Jay Grelen and Doug LeBlanc, "This
is Me, This is Real," _World_, Vol. 7, No. 32, 23 Jan 1993,
p. 9.
17 Bob Larson, Memo, 28 Dec 1992.
18 Bob Larson, "Prepare For War," Radio broadcast, 29 Jan. 1993.
19 Ken Smith, Certified Letter, 31 Dec 1992
20 Bob Larson, Radio broadcast (KNSS - Witchita), 15 Jul. 1993
21 Offense Report (Misdemeanor harassment), Lakewood (CO) Police
Dept. (Officer Ponczek, reporting), Case Report #92-105773, 3
Nov. 1992, p. 2 ( it is a closed case and thus part of the
public record).
The deed, obtained by the author from the Jefferson Co. Clerk
and Recorder, shows the actual sales price to be $440,000.
22 Bob Larson, "Talk Back with Bob Larson," Radio broadcast, 8
Jul 1993
23 Ibid., ibid.
24 Ibid., 28 Jul. 1993.
25 Application for Marriage Lincense #E64338, filed 12 Feb 1993
( The former Laura Ann Harris Anderson was born on 10/29/61
Larson was born on 5/28/44 ).
26 Lori Boespflug, Interview, 16 Jan. 1992.
27 Bob Larson Ministries, 1991 Corporation Report, attachment.
28 Bob Larson, "Talk Back with Bob Larson," Radio broadcast, 24
Mar. 1993
29 David Neff, Letter, July 23, 1993
30 Diana Parker, Telephone interview, March, 1993
31 Name withheld by request, Interview (conducted by an associate),
July, 1993
32 "The Gay Ghost," _Newsweek_, 26 Jul. 1993, p. 4.
33 Bob Sands, "Hot Talk with Al Rantell," Radio broadcast, 15 July 1993
34 "Hot Talk," ibid.
Article written by Kenneth L. Smith, typed in laboriously for the
Net by 21922sm@msu.edu.
Any question or comments may be sent to 21922sm@,msu.edu or to the
author:
Kenneth L. Smith
PO Box 280305
Lakewood CO 80228
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